44 Miami dade bus drivers have tested positive. One sadly passed away. And in answer to the question in the link, I think anyone working in the forefront should receive hazard pay
Vicki, it’s tragic the loss of life among public transit workers, including the person in Miami. Well over 100 have died from Covid-19 in NYC, 45 in London, dozens in other European cities. Several MBTA workers have died, too. Then there are all the police officers/personnel who’ve passed away (>40 in NYC alone), grocery store clerks, and of course hundreds of healthcare workers (we’re closing in on 650 as a nation). All of these `soldiers’ are heroes.
I have seen people argue that 136k deaths is a small amount, trivial even, because as a nation we have 330 million inhabitants. They then note the minuscule percentage that 136k represents. We therefore shouldn’t care as much as we do about Covid-19. It’s a bizarre `argument’ in so many ways, especially regarding a contagious disease for which the final death toll continues to mount. To anyone who says this, I’d also counter by saying so you must not care at all about the 70,000 drug overdoses every year, the 37,000 traffic fatalities, or 40,000 breast cancer deaths. Such minuscule percentages of the overall population. Why pay attention to it?
The only reason for the insanity of not being so concerned: politics and/or religion. To them, putting down those who don’t share their views/beliefs is more important than protecting the lives of vulnerable human beings, which makes them more their own kind than any political view or religious belief can ever do. And that is a messed up and immoral take on the value of life. There’s no argument. Another excellent comment from you. Thank you.
Thank you Joshua. Excellent comment. Very sad times In which we live
The problem is more complicated because death affects the lives of others. I have read that someone dies, they leave 5 others grieving … on average. I’m not sure about the statistic itself, but the result of a death can be far reaching.
There are also children who have lost a parent. Very devastating especially for younger children. I have read about people who lost both parents to Covid-19.
Not to be morbid, but if 500,000 to 1,000,000 die in total from the virus in the US over the next couple of years, I would not be surprised. After all, it is not under control.
So few look at this. You are so sadly correct.
So I am curious as to what the guidance says about getting together with family and friends? I’m getting some extremely mixed messages from some of my own family by what they are doing in addition to friends. My wife and I have been pretty much staying the course since March in following the guidelines and being extra careful. I do have an immune deficiency so that’s another reason for being careful besides the obvious. I’m also very sensitive to the risks to older people and wouldn’t want to put anyone at risk. However, I’m starting to wonder though if I am missing something specifically in regards to small get togethers with family and friends?
Really good question, Scott. My take on this based on what I’ve read is that it’s certainly okay to have small gatherings of friends and/or family outdoors with social distancing rules in place. When I say small, 10 is a rule of thumb. It’s somewhat of an arbitrary number obviously. And, it’s no guarantee that infections won’t take place. But, limiting gatherings to less than 10 helps mitigate spread, along with having get-togethers outdoors as much as possible and with proper distancing.
Many thanks Joshua for weighing in!
Scott as you know I am compromised also. My dr during my annual said I need to stay away from risk. So I do. And one grand is compromised as well. We get together outside. Everyone brings their own chairs and food. The kids (all six) are surprisingly good but in a quiet and not overly anxious way. My son has had covid, but the jury is out as to whether he can have again. He is exposed daily. But there is also someone who works in each family. You remain in my prayers.
It feels so good to see my kids and grandkids all together. It breaks my heart not to be able to hug them.
Adding that I am already stressing about Christmas. We have always had Christmas as a family. I have no idea what we will do if this continues and I suspect it will. I’m working on some ideas so we are prepared
Thanks Vicki for commenting. What you are doing sounds very reasonable. I’m afraid the family and friends I’m referring to aren’t being as thoughtful. I could be making an assumption, but don’t believe so based on what they’re doing and that is unfortunate.
I’m so sorry. I do wish they’d understand.
I have a bad feeling that Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year’s will not be the same for most families. Getting together will likely be extremely limited.
You can probably forget about company Christmas parties either in-office or at fancy restaurants, and those traditional “town common” tree lightings will probably be virtual like every activity is nowadays. It’s going to be a very sad holiday season 2020 I’m afraid. 🙁
I’m afraid of that also. We had a disjointed Christmas last year for the first time ever since some kids had flu. Maybe it was a trial run. It’s always hard for me because Christmas was always the most special day in my family as it is for many. Without Mac it seems to have become even more important if that is possible
I need to add that for far too many who have lost loved ones this will be an extremely difficult holiday season even if we can get together
Yes we can only hope there will be some big breakthrough by that time.
For sure. But if folks don’t do as they should, I am losing hope
Johns Hopkins says 25% are showing positive in AZ. One in four is mind boggling at this point. CA is seeing an uptick. I sure as heck hope Baker is prepared to shut down if we see any uptick.
C-19 for 7-12 is up…
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44 Miami dade bus drivers have tested positive. One sadly passed away. And in answer to the question in the link, I think anyone working in the forefront should receive hazard pay
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article244128717.html
And philip….I think it was you who commented on Disney…you were correct (I was not) that it opens today for all.
Sorry Vicki but it wasn’t me who mentioned Disney. I have never even been there and certainly have no interest now.
I do hope Mickey and Snow White wear masks though. 😉
Aahhh ok. Thanks. Someone did. My memory is focused on too many names lately with ancestry research 😉
I wonder thoughts on this
https://www.cbs7.com/2020/07/08/west-texas-doctor-goes-viral-with-claim-of-covid-cure/
And this
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20200707/Asthma-inhalers-being-trialed-for-treatment-of-COVID-19.aspx
Vicki, it’s tragic the loss of life among public transit workers, including the person in Miami. Well over 100 have died from Covid-19 in NYC, 45 in London, dozens in other European cities. Several MBTA workers have died, too. Then there are all the police officers/personnel who’ve passed away (>40 in NYC alone), grocery store clerks, and of course hundreds of healthcare workers (we’re closing in on 650 as a nation). All of these `soldiers’ are heroes.
I have seen people argue that 136k deaths is a small amount, trivial even, because as a nation we have 330 million inhabitants. They then note the minuscule percentage that 136k represents. We therefore shouldn’t care as much as we do about Covid-19. It’s a bizarre `argument’ in so many ways, especially regarding a contagious disease for which the final death toll continues to mount. To anyone who says this, I’d also counter by saying so you must not care at all about the 70,000 drug overdoses every year, the 37,000 traffic fatalities, or 40,000 breast cancer deaths. Such minuscule percentages of the overall population. Why pay attention to it?
The only reason for the insanity of not being so concerned: politics and/or religion. To them, putting down those who don’t share their views/beliefs is more important than protecting the lives of vulnerable human beings, which makes them more their own kind than any political view or religious belief can ever do. And that is a messed up and immoral take on the value of life. There’s no argument. Another excellent comment from you. Thank you.
Thank you Joshua. Excellent comment. Very sad times In which we live
The problem is more complicated because death affects the lives of others. I have read that someone dies, they leave 5 others grieving … on average. I’m not sure about the statistic itself, but the result of a death can be far reaching.
There are also children who have lost a parent. Very devastating especially for younger children. I have read about people who lost both parents to Covid-19.
Not to be morbid, but if 500,000 to 1,000,000 die in total from the virus in the US over the next couple of years, I would not be surprised. After all, it is not under control.
So few look at this. You are so sadly correct.
So I am curious as to what the guidance says about getting together with family and friends? I’m getting some extremely mixed messages from some of my own family by what they are doing in addition to friends. My wife and I have been pretty much staying the course since March in following the guidelines and being extra careful. I do have an immune deficiency so that’s another reason for being careful besides the obvious. I’m also very sensitive to the risks to older people and wouldn’t want to put anyone at risk. However, I’m starting to wonder though if I am missing something specifically in regards to small get togethers with family and friends?
Really good question, Scott. My take on this based on what I’ve read is that it’s certainly okay to have small gatherings of friends and/or family outdoors with social distancing rules in place. When I say small, 10 is a rule of thumb. It’s somewhat of an arbitrary number obviously. And, it’s no guarantee that infections won’t take place. But, limiting gatherings to less than 10 helps mitigate spread, along with having get-togethers outdoors as much as possible and with proper distancing.
Many thanks Joshua for weighing in!
Scott as you know I am compromised also. My dr during my annual said I need to stay away from risk. So I do. And one grand is compromised as well. We get together outside. Everyone brings their own chairs and food. The kids (all six) are surprisingly good but in a quiet and not overly anxious way. My son has had covid, but the jury is out as to whether he can have again. He is exposed daily. But there is also someone who works in each family. You remain in my prayers.
It feels so good to see my kids and grandkids all together. It breaks my heart not to be able to hug them.
Adding that I am already stressing about Christmas. We have always had Christmas as a family. I have no idea what we will do if this continues and I suspect it will. I’m working on some ideas so we are prepared
Thanks Vicki for commenting. What you are doing sounds very reasonable. I’m afraid the family and friends I’m referring to aren’t being as thoughtful. I could be making an assumption, but don’t believe so based on what they’re doing and that is unfortunate.
I’m so sorry. I do wish they’d understand.
I have a bad feeling that Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year’s will not be the same for most families. Getting together will likely be extremely limited.
You can probably forget about company Christmas parties either in-office or at fancy restaurants, and those traditional “town common” tree lightings will probably be virtual like every activity is nowadays. It’s going to be a very sad holiday season 2020 I’m afraid. 🙁
I’m afraid of that also. We had a disjointed Christmas last year for the first time ever since some kids had flu. Maybe it was a trial run. It’s always hard for me because Christmas was always the most special day in my family as it is for many. Without Mac it seems to have become even more important if that is possible
I need to add that for far too many who have lost loved ones this will be an extremely difficult holiday season even if we can get together
Yes we can only hope there will be some big breakthrough by that time.
For sure. But if folks don’t do as they should, I am losing hope
Johns Hopkins says 25% are showing positive in AZ. One in four is mind boggling at this point. CA is seeing an uptick. I sure as heck hope Baker is prepared to shut down if we see any uptick.
C-19 for 7-12 is up…