3:39PM
The brief shot of very cold air just passed may be a taste of things to come, but they won’t be coming too quickly. Looking over the maps today it’s pretty easy and safe to say that a quiet pattern will continue for the next 5 or 6 days, along with no major cold. In fact, the early part of the weekend may be quite mild once again. The next storm threat is near or just after midweek next week, and at this early stage, odds favor rain over snow for the Boston Area. In the immediate future, clouds will dominate through Friday as warm air comes back into the region, first above us, then eventually down to the surface by Saturday. The only threat of precipitation is a slight risk of non-accumulating very light snow on Friday morning as some of the warmer air is riding over colder air at the surface. By late Friday, it will already be feeling milder, setting us up for a run at 50 degrees Saturday. Sunday will cool down slightly, and the early part of next week looks dry and cool, but not too cold.
Details…
TONIGHT: Mostly cloudy. Low 20-25. Wind W under 10 MPH.
FRIDAY: Cloudy. Slight chance of very light snow in the morning. No snow accumulation. High 38-43. Wind variable under 10 MPH becoming SW around 10 MPH by late day.
FRIDAY NIGHT: Mostly cloudy. Low 33-38. Wind SW 5-15 MPH.
SATURDAY: Partly cloudy. High 46-51. Wind WSW 10-20 MPH.
SATURDAY NIGHT: Variably cloudy. Low 30-35. Wind W 10-15 MPH shifting to N.
SUNDAY: Partly sunny. High 36-41. Wind N 10-15 MPH.
MONDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 22. High 39.
TUESDAY: Partly cloudy. Low 22. High 39.
WEDNESDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 24. High 44.
THURSDAY: Cloudy. PM rain. Low 30. High 42.
Thanks TK. I am hoping the rainorma for next week will be the pattern changer and we could get some snowarama’s after that.
Normal temps according to the CPC 6-10 day outlook and below normal temps in the 8-14 day outlook.
The CPC is finally showing differences in our weather.
Western Alaska even showing above average temps, which is great news.
The great lakes area are going to get another round of heavy snowfall next weekend.
Big time snow drought within those lake effect snow areas. Buffalo only has 5.3 inches.
Yet again the 18z GFS has the PV too far north and west at the end of the run, just toss it’s long range depiction of the 500mb pattern.
Harvey made an early call for the pats game on 1/14 calling for cold and dry. And said of course it is an early call and things can change. The best met on tv in my mind.
He is very good
The best. I love him and his entire team.
There is nothing in the way of snow coming in the next couple days, next week or possibly two weeks. Petes words not mine. I think he is sticking his neck out to far. But than again he nailed Sunday saying no way snow. Who knows.
Pete is usually the hypster if anything so if that guy calls for that we probably won’t snow for 3 weeks hahaha 🙂
We r in this funk, it’s really unbelievable, i mean this winter will feel very short, I know u think it will snow and I agree but can u imagine if we go the whole winter with no snow?
I agree the winter will feel very short this year. But there is just no way at all we go the entire winter with no snow. I think we have only 7weeks of chances, as I think March continues to do what It has been doing the last few years. Call me crazy but I still say we finish just above for snowfall.
But at one point in his “no way snow” he was calling for rain. That’s not happening either. 🙂
Yes he did say rain. How is your dad doing. TK do you agree with me on us finishing with above for snow. Stick your neck out please.
It’s going to be really tough to end up above given the horrendously slow start and climatology when we are this low at this point. Years like 1969 let you know that it is possible, however that was a different regime entirely. We will see though, mother nature is fickle and there is much time to go.
Thank’s. Time will tell.
TK. How is your dad ?
John remember I said he is right more than not. 😉
I think I am starting too know you real good now. As I was typing that I knew you would respond.
I am predictable until I am not:) One thing you can always count on is I am rather fierce when it comes to family and friends. And I consider all here a friend 🙂
I think I got that.
🙂
John and coastal and Tom. Off weather topic. Where do you recommend for clams in this area. Bridgeway is good but inconsistent. If I’m
Having them once I’m hoping for yum
Had dads in BrantRock is known for great seafood. Place is a dive but heard it is still good. I have not been there in years. I am not sure what you would think of this. But there is a place in Hanover called Nautical Mile. They have a deal called the family fish feed. I think It is 2pounds of fried fish and comes with fries, big tub of cole slaw and lemon wedges for $20.00. Let me tell you my wife and I can’t finish it, and I am a big eater. The fish is always fresh and cooked perfect. I always add onion rings so that cost would be $25 Ithink. I also have had clams there as well, small but good.
Oh and Vicki the place in hanover is takeout.
John thank you. Sounds as if I might have clams twice. I have head if had dads but not the other. !!
You would be shocked at how good that family fish feed is, and the size for $20 bucks. I remember when my wife first told me this. She said a friend had it and fed like four people. I was like ok. Than we got it and have had it maybe 12times. Go past kohls and down to end. Take the right at the light onto 53. Not far after that at all on your right. Its either right before building 19 or right after. Go slow can be easily missed.
For a nice sub go to marias in Scituate harbor.
Thanks those are great to knoe
Hi Vicki.
My wife is the seafood eater and she usually gets scallops. But when she wants scallops, like John mentioned, we go to Haddad’s in Brant Rock. Another place she likes to go is the lobster tail/pound ( always forget the exact name) in Plymouth on the waterfront. (Exit 6, Rt. 3)
Thank you Tom 🙂
Dad’s hanging in there. Complaining about being there, which is a good sign. But they are just trying to isolate exactly what kind of infection is in his lungs so they can treat it right. But he is much improved over 2 days ago. 🙂
TK. Did your dad have pneumonia a short time ago? I may well be thinking of someone else. My dad used to have it often and it turned out he was aspirating his food. It’s a very good sign your dad is grumbling !! I’ll keep him in my prayers
He had a long-lasting cold between Thanksgiving and Christmas but they never did find pneumonia.
Wow. Long time. I’m glad they are taking the time to figure it out
Glad to hear your dad’s feeling better TK.
Glad he is doing well!!
Below a tweet from Joe Bastardi
have tried to make points about the wild cards of this winter beforehand, this was one of them. Winter will turn on dime 1/15 on for US
Explain more please. Do you think my call of a storm on MLK weekend still looks like a lock.
To be exact I think I said 1/16.MLK day.
He’s Saying that a major change coming ie cold. Now the question is how quickly and how much comes is the stuff to watch. As Tom eluded this morning the 00z GFS had a really nice clipper. I think we need to see what happens with next weeks storm before knowing much. Whether that storm phases or or not which could impact the next. From my knowledge we don’t want a phase on that storm bc it would let the northern storm be dominate which might even get us some snow out of that storm.
Vicki- They were spraying down the ice surface today. I hope it is a go for the 15th. When do you head back home.
We head home Jan 29. My daughter and family are here MLK wknd. Son may be Here then too. Other daughter playing it by ear depending on how her pregnancy is going
Maybe you can go on the 15th to the opening, come to a small town event.
We will try
I hope Joe Bastardi is right.
John I don’t think it means a storm on 1/16 but I think the cold shots are going to last a little longer and there will be more opportunities for snow. Maybe the almighty Old Farmers’ Almanac will be right with their blizzard call at the end of January.
I get that part. Last night you guys were looking at a 1/14 possible snowstorm, is that still on the table. From what I am hearing the 1/12/ storm is rain.
The 1/12 looks like rain at this point but that storm maybe on the one to change the pattern just like the Pre Halloween Noreaster did and send this on this stretch of mild weather.
1/14 is the one I need information on.
See above John.
Thanks
This morning, when I saw environmental Canada’s temp outlook, (I find them to be very good) change to showing no above normal temps in the northeast starting Jan 13th, I thought, ok, here comes a change. And the GFS has shown the cold, in general starting mid month. But, today’s runs of the EURO havent shown that intensity of cold after next week’s storm, so….I’m kind of left to wonder what their take will be tomorrow.
The EURO has been a bit out to lunch today in my opinion.
Non weather post, the Bruins are ahead………. 9-0 !!!!!!
I’m looking forward to Saturday’s game vs. Vancouver !
Since the slow start the Bruins have really come on. I could see another deep playoff run with this team.
Yes, they’ve been unbelievable since starting 3-7. I think their 22-3 since then. Vancouver is good again. Maybe this can be like the 80s NBA where it was Lakers-Celtics quite often in the Finals. Canucks – Bruins would be fun again next June.
Bruins keeping the pressure on the Rangers for the top spot in the eastern conference. Rangers are a team that could
make some noise if they get in the playoffs and possibly win a series. Its like there finally buying into the John
Tortorella system that brought the Tampa Bay Lightning a Stanley Cup back in the 2003-04 season.
I didnt know he was Tampa’s coach back then….There’s already Red Sox – Yankees, the Celtics – Knicks have been more entertaining lately. Any Boston-NY sporting event is interesting. So, I think a Rangers – Bruins eastern conference finals series would be very entertaining !
The Knicks defense is not that good and Mike D’Antoni’s system in my opinion will never lead that
team to a championship. To me there a team that make the playoffs but not a team that will go on a
deep run in the playoffs.
I agree.
I actually like the patriots jets rivalry even though the jets have been puking on themselves 🙂
Its exciting for bruins fans 🙂
I can imagine that Bastradi is probably overdoing the change bc he needs it to keep people tuning in.
Kind of like Tk’s extended forcast above? Geeze, he says anything the keep people coming back. 🙂
Lol!! He never shows all his cards that TK!!
Woods Hill Weather has a big future. Fan base is needed. 😉
Subtle little cold shot tonight. Mt Washington, which was around 5F earlier today, is now -6F and Burlington, VT is in the teens.
Sorry about my last post. I keep on forgetting that this is thursday not wednesday since i did not have school monday.
tonight and friday : mostly cloudy chance of flurries highs in the upper 30s and low 40s. lows in the low 20s
friday night mostly cloudy , lows in the low 30s
saturday mostly sunny with highs in the low 50s
saturday night and sunday mostly sunny lows in the upper 20s, highs in the high 3os
sunday night through monday night : cloudy lows in the lower 20s highs in the mid 30s
tuesday through wednesday: more sun than clouds highs in the mid 40s lows in the mid 20s
wednesday and wednesday night a chance of rain with highs in the low 40s. lows in the mid 30s
outlook. The calm weather we had been dealing with so far in the past week to 2 week time frame might end on the 12th late next week. the storm looks to be a rain maker as of right now and models have been steady ( been saying the same thing for a while )
Yes this storm is probably going to be rain or not effect us at all but this storm has the opportunity of changing the jet stream and have it in a favorable position for us snow lovers and skiers for the second part of the month. there is a more zonal flow occuring right now and we are right on the edge of the cool air and the cool air will be in retreat up to the 12th do to a warm front late tonight and early tomorrow morning which could give some light snow to the ski areas not much but will coat the icy man made snow.
There is one thing that can happen in this pattern JUST when it looks like it’s going in favor of snowlovers. In polar vortex breakdown you will see sudden retrogression of features and all of a sudden the cold air punches are coming in further and further west. The 18z GFS hinted this, but is probably overdone.
TK, Pleased to hear that your Dad is doing better. Complaining about going home is usually a very good sign!
I believe all mets now are in agreement that the 1/12 rainstorm changes the pattern. However, Pete on his 11:00 pm newscast cautioned that the next 2-3+ weeks, while will be quite cold, could also be very quiet…as JJ here on these blogs sometimes refers as “wasted cold”. I have always wanted to live to see Boston get exactly 3 feet (36″) of snow in one storm, but I hope that I never, ever see a snowless winter here in Boston.
TK, I hope your father can come home next week. Keep us posted on his condition as always! 🙂
I could be seeing things, but I think a trace of snow has fallen in Marshfield.
Logan is at around +2F for the month. I’m thinking based on temp projections, by next Friday, its probably going to be somewhere at +5 to +7F. Have we lived this story before. The environmental Canada temp outlook remains consistent this AM, with normal temps mid month and below normal temps just north of New England. Personally, in 24 hrs, I ‘ve lost a bit of confidence on the possibility of sustained mid month cold.
You and me both Tom:(
A little dusting of snow on the cars this morning.
Don’t believe sustained cold until it’s here and been locked in guys. Just look at the weather right!
We’d probably be at average temps if there were snow cover. GFS still looks progressive with equal mild and cold. The jet just doesn’t want to dig in still.
A light dusting on all surfaces in Humarock. 🙂
Good Morning 🙂 and lucky you! Brighton is cloudy at 26, but no snow. Wait a minute ~ I think I saw a flake! Nope, it was only dust. Ha!
hahahahahaha
Well that snow for the 16 th is gone and the cold pattern that was looking like mid month wants to be postponed to around the 20th, looks like 47 for a high today and 50 for a high tommorrow, temp is 28.9 degrees here.
no accumulations but a few flakes in the air this morning
Nice little dusting in Hanover this morning. Second one of the season, first since the October Event.
Nada in Marblehead in terms of snow flakes.
It seems the 00z EURO is back on track, while the 00z GFS wants to bring back the SE ridge briefly at 240 hours.
Interestingly the 06z GFS had next week’s storm a bit further east, though the 850mb temps are far too warm. The end of the 06z run is quite frigid.
No cold air in place so the storm system next week is a rainorama.
A dandruff of snow in Andover..l.
It looks like that will be the last of the any snow we see for at least another week.
UGH meter now up to a 5 with that storm system next week.
J.J.
What do you think about recalibrating the index just for this season. The sugar coating we had overnight could qualify as 2 relative to this winter!
LOL! I feel like were in the south here and making a big deal over a coating of snow but the way things have gone so
far this winter beggars can’t be choosers and will have to take what we can get.
Good morning all.
A couple of observations:
1. A little light dusting of SNOW this morning.
2. Jamaica Pond is still 98% ice free. On the backside there is a thin layer right around
the shore line extending out about 20 feet or so.
3. The system for 1/12 is progged by all the models to move even MORE Eastward
than previously depicted, in fact some of them almost make it a
benchmarkstorm. Only problem is it will be OH SO warm out ahead of it,
such that it virtually eliminates the chances for snow. Still hoping, though.
4. GFS now has the 9th system passing just to our South? What up with that?
Thoughts?
Have a great Day All.
I hate a benchmark storm this time of year that produces rain. Perfect track but no cold high to the north to pump
down the cold air.
Maybe we get a northern shift:) for the 9th storm!!
Sure was shocked when I left Pembroke at 5am this morning to see all roads covered with snow, It was a nice little dusting. When I got to the T in Quincy, nothing ,and nothing at work.
I guess u were right, we’re not gonna go snowless haha 🙂 this is really a joke
Unreal to see a benchmark storm for January 12th that is brining rain! Don’t even know what to say!
To me 9 out of 10 times during the winter months that brings accumulating snow to SNE. Too bad this storm system can’t create its own cold air.
I need a pick me up with some good news from the weather department!!
I had to put down one of our cats this morning and it was awful!! She was 15 years old and had total kidney failure:( It’s like losing a family member:(
So sorry for you and your family’s loss. They are just like a family member dog or cat.
As a pet lover, I am sorry to hear that one.
Hadi,
Sorry to hear. We had to put down our dog of 16 years a few years ago.
Very Sad. My wife hasn’t gotten over it to this day.
Hadi I am sorry to hear that.
It’s funny u say that hadi my sister just had there dog put down yesterday 🙁
Well it’s actually not funny I guess weird would be a better word
Agreed.
Hadi, I’m so very sorry for your loss. May the many fond memories you have of your family pet help you through this difficult time.
Hadi, so sorry to hear about your cat. We had to put down our cat years ago due to kidney failure, too. She was 19 yrs. old. We now have a cat – she has been with us for 15 yrs. We were never lucky enough to have children so our cats have been like children to us. And even if you have children, pets are part of the family.
Hadi I am very sorry. Losing a pet leaves such a huge void. How wonderful that she had 15 long years.
Who’s jumping on my bandwagon of less than 6 inches of snow for the winter, not counting the 1.7 inches I got back 3 months ago
We will get more than six inches and it will not be the least snowiest on record.
We will c 🙂
Longshot’s guess for season total is 3 inches 🙂 Wonder what he saw that the rest of us didn’t???
Your crazy. I’ll bet my house your wromg.
Let’s root for sneaky snow on Monday.
Hopefully the 12z runs offer up something for us snowlovers. At the rate were going this winter I might have to start rooting for that Almanac to be right when they are predicting snow. They might be right next week because they called for stormy weather from the 12-15 of January.
You want to know the forcast for the up coming week.
today through saturday night partly to mostly sunny highs in the 40s warmest on saturday with highs reaching 50. lows in the 20s
sunday and monday highs in the upper 30s lows in the 20s
tuesday through wednesday warming up each day highs in the mid 40s lows in the 20s and low 30s.
wednesday night looks like a rain storm still will travel to the south of us but warm air will keep it all rain. and it will continue through out thursday.
cooler air filters in after it but also the following possible storm looks warm to.
Also can someone give me the link to the gfs model that is saying a storm is tracking closer than before because i do not see it.
Here ya go. We never said it was progged to hit us, just that the storm
was there again and we hoped it would track farther North:
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?prevPage=Model&MainPage=index&image=&page=Param&cycle=01%2F06%2F2012+06UTC&rname=SFC-LAYER+PARMS&pname=10m_wnd_precip&pdesc=&model=GFS&area=NAMER&cat=MODEL+GUIDANCE&fcast=090&areaDesc=North+America+-+US+Canada+and+northern+Mexico&prevArea=NAMER&currKey=model&returnToModel=&imageSize=M
thanks old salty.
Lets see if the 12z runs brings it north or stays the course and if it still says rainorma for the Thursday system.
Get the sump pump ready bc the 12z gfs shows nothing but heavy rain!! UGH meter above 10!!
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/NCOMAGWEB/appcontroller?page=Image&prevPage=Param&image=..%2FGemPakTier%2FMagGemPakImages%2Fgfs%2F20120106%2F12%2Fgfs_namer_144_850_temp_mslp_precip.gif&fcast=144&imagesurls=&model=GFS&area=NAMER&storm=&areaDesc=North+America+-+US+Canada+and+northern+Mexico&cat=MODEL+GUIDANCE&rname=SFC-LAYER+PARMS&pname=850_temp_mslp_precip&cycle=01%2F06%2F2012+12UTC&imageSize=M&currKey=model&scrollx=0&scrolly=0&prevArea=NAMER&prevImage=yes
Zero degree line is nearly in Canada!!! LOL
Well what’s the latest we have ever received measurable snow? Jan 8th?
Don’t throw anything at me…I reviewed the 00z ECWMF Ensembles through 360 hours through 1/21, it has almost no snow potential in that time for the SNE. Around 1/17 it takes a strong low through the Great Lakes and then Northeast into Canada allowing warm air to surge all the way into northern New England and only after its passage does it allow very very cold air to crash all the way down to the Southeast US Coast, while building heights in the West. But at the same time it creates a very dry pattern for New England with a deeply suppressed storm track.
If this were to verify, the South Carolina Republican primary could be affected by a major snowstorm. I am not kidding. We would sit high and dry, but even the coast of South Carolina which rarely sees snow could have a snowstorm on their hands. Wouldn’t that be ironic? NE with virtually no snow all winter, and a foot of snow in South Carolina!
That would be unreal!! I don’t know what to even say if that occured which very well could looking at long range.
I really do think we should kiss this winter goodbye. Not that we cannot have snow in February or March, or even a few days of cold like we just experienced, but the chances of a genuine winter occurring are dwindling. Furthermore, it’s deja-vu this winter season in terms of weather forecasters predicting major changes that just do not happen. I’ve now viewed all the forecasts today, compared them with yesterday’s and see that once again they’re all postponing the sustained arctic air invasion, which, quite frankly, may not come at all. I have zero confidence in a sustained arctic air invasion, let alone snows at this point, especially since the earliest this invasion of cold air is coming is more than a week from now. How much faith can one have in a long-range forecast? I am sorry to be this pessimistic, but it ain’t looking good, folks. By the way, not only will it hit 50 tomorrow in Boston (I actually think we could hit 53, given the warmth that sits a few hundred miles to our southwest, it will hit 50 again in the middle of next week (they’re saying 47, but this is what they said about tomorrow a few days ago). This winter is brutal for cold- and snowlovers.
I agree Joshua this winter will be the winter that never came, like u said sure it can snow in feb or early match but now that we r in jan still with no snow for those that r keeping the faith will slowly come to earth as we enter Feb, I think March will follow suit of the last 3 marches
Joshua – I am still keeping my belief up that we will get a lot of snow in Feb. or even March. Not that I want it to snow at this point, now. We’ve reached the point that it would be nice to set some records of no snow for this yr. I just feel bad for the people who enjoy winter sports and snow in general. Not saying I wouldn’t like a blizzard – it’s just that at this point, we might as well call it a day and go for some records! 🙂 Besides, if we don’t get any snow this winter – something is very wrong.
Global warming activist r going crazy with this
I know – that’s true. I am neither pro or con as far as global warming is concerned. And if we get a snowless winter, there could be many different reasons for it.
I know I keep saying this but Everytime I turn around I over hear someone saying all we have to do is get through 1 more month or a quote in the paper saying this is the best winter anybody could ask for, and then in big bold letters NO SNOW with a happy face
What’s a New England winter without snow? Lame is what it is.
It is I agree, but I went into a clothing dept and there were a bunch of people beginning to hang spring clothing sales which is earlier by about a month, must be from the top telling them lets get a start on this and there thinking is who’s not happy about springtime
OMG! THAT’S OUTRAGEOUS! I CANT BELIEVE IT!
1 2nd that. It will not be a nice transition into spring we get no winter.
I agree, but it’s crazy everyone keeps saying we can’t believe how retail is pushing Christmas before Halloween and then we here how great retail is doing and how good they did this Christmas, so I expect the retail to push Christmas shortly after labor day this coming year.
Tom – Coastal – John – everyone…..We are seeing a great deal of erosion down here and wondering what storm it came from. Would it have been the Halloween storm?? In front of the house we are in, there is a small section of sand eaten away. The owner has had the house since 1947 and never seen it.
We were amazed that at least four feet of sand was washed from the front of the house where we stay in summer. There is a cement wall barrier at the edge of the house and beach that we could just barely see the top of when we looked down from the deck. Now we see four feet of it and I have no idea how anyone gets from the house to the beach. There are enormous boulders exposed on the houses to either side that we couldn’t see before either.
In 100 yrs Vicki were ur house is now will probably be ocean unfortunatly
Odd part is Charlie the parts that are being uncovered used to be visible when I was young and then filled in with sand. I am sure you are right but this little peninsula seems to endure. Even to having one connection to land open to the sea during the Portland gale and another connection to land form on it’s opposite side
Vicki, I think Tom could answer your question better than I could. If my memory serves my correctly we experience several storms this late fall / early winter that had a lot of wind associated with it. Mostly SE I think so that maybe a reason your seeing so much erosion. Again, I’m sure Tom could do a better job explaining this.
beach erosian from not one storm but many.
Thank you John and Coastal – the odd part is that the two storms this time last year were back to back down here and took the rocks from the beach right over the road to the river which came up to meet the ocean. No erosion from either. The ocean is an incredible force of nature
My friend just sold his house in Scituate right on the ocean. destruction from winter storms. had enough.
JMA I trust your insight very much and am sad to read your thoughts:(
Thanks
JMA – you are more knowledgeable than me so I trust your insight too. But do you see that for the whole winter?
Joshua…I am beginning to share your pessimism as well. I have no doubt that we will have intrusions of arctic air from time to time, but I have the feeling most times no moisture will accompany it and any significant moisture will only bring warmth and rainstorms. 🙁
Bottom line…that SE ridge isn’t going anywhere for months to come.
I look at it this way but first I trust JMA’s and Joshua’s assessment of the longer term weather pattern. They obviously know much more about the weather than I do.
This is my ray of light. It seems for the past two months that the models would show storm potential 7+ days out. We would look at every model run only to see the models either loose the storm or the track changes and gives us rain. The models appear not to perform very well in the extend period so if they are calling for above normal temp and dry conditions 7+ days out then that gives me hope. If the pattern is indeed changing then maybe it will turn on us very quickly and nail us with a storm here and there.
Ahh…. Write Off Winter. Stick a fork in it. It is DONE. Spring is Here already!!
Enjoy the mild snowless weather.
The sun for some reason even feels warmer, absolutely crazy
Sure does. Bizzarre becasue the sun usually looks like the size of a pea this time of year when it’s ten degrees out. And throwing out about as much heat as a frozen pea at that.
must be the solar flares! Lol
I was planing on making more snow this weekend too. January and look at this wet bulb forecast. January…and no snow making for three of five days! And the other two days are marginal at best.
http://www.snowathome.com/weather/snow1.php?location=01606
I am not ready to throw the towel in on winter yet.
We will not give up the ship!
I am not either JJ – I just think it has shifted. The seasons have been shifting for a few years now. I don’t feel as if it’s all over.
I will duck after I say this but the boys (term is relative since they are well into their 20s except my grandson) are out on the beach playing football and some other game they found under the house. Kind of fun being on the beach at this time of year!
This weekend me and my wife r going down to the cape just bc of this weather,
The EURO is still in a funk…
I will not give up either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will and HAVE!!! LOL
Old salty say it ain’t so 🙁
NO WAY!! Say it ain’t so!!!
The snow will come. It has to. Because I say so. 🙂
LOL
Thank you Rainshine – I will stand right behind you when you confront mother nature 🙂
I’m wondering if in 6-8 weeks if we hit 50 or 60 deg if we will see everything sprouting early, imagine if there r leaves back on trees by late April?!!
I’ve seen that before. Don’t be surprised, but then this year, that will be
when the SNOW COMES!!!)@*_!(&*#(!&@*#&*!@#*
The trees are trained to sprout correctly:)
To a point. Give or take 2 or 3 weeks.
As far as the trees sprouting leaves, have seen it anywhere
from last week in April to 2nd week in May.
This year we noticed that the leaves did turn till later than normal and we had leaves on the trees late in the season.
50 here
Hi Vicki.
From your question earlier……….I know that at the beach I like to go to in Marshfield, a couple of days after Irene, we found a couple foot change in the sand level at the beach……The last 2 months, near the new moon, there have been very high astronomical tides as well and during those times, there can also be a lot of reshaping of tidal areas.
Hi Tom – thanks. We were staying at that house during Irene – went home and came back and there was no change then so maybe the other times during the full moon. It’s remarkable reallly that it dropped four feet in a few months.
Last night on the 9pm news (NECN), Matt Noyes, who I respect and enjoy watching, was very confident that a significant change in our pattern was about to (next week) descend upon us. This still may happen. I hope it does, even if it just brings us some cold, sunny days. Anything but 40s and 50s in January (the thought alone depresses me). But, looking at the weather map he showed (NECN does have a cool map which takes you right up to the NW territories of Canada), I was thinking to myself last night that for this dramatic change to occur in the jet stream the Northern branch would have to descend about 1500-2000 miles (possible, of course), the SE ridge would have to break down (again, possible) and NAO would have to move into neutral and then negative territory (again, possible) for a sustained period of cold. This trifecta is possible. I guess anything is, but my hunch is it is rather unlikely. Let’s see what shakes out. My guess is more of the same this winter, and that will include lots of 40s and even 50s, some very brief cold spells, and rain whenever it does precipitate.
Joshua,
I’ll hang my hat on your last statement! I fear you may be 100% Correct.
We shall see what happens following the breakdown of the polar vortex, which will be occurring in the next week. Also the SOI values are still very low, actually today’s value was -4, which means we are losing the La Nina.
Tempwise, New England is split in half. It is 27F in Portland, ME. With the sw flow being light, it appears the low level cool air is moving a bit down the coastline. Witness the light NE winds in Boston and a good chunk of northeast Mass.
here is a surface map. Warm air is coming in.
http://weather.unisys.com/satellite/sat_sfc.php?inv=0&t=cur
Love the unisys weather website !! Even behind the “cool front”, its 46F in Minneapolis.
what a sunset!
one of the nicest I’ve seen.
The entire sky looked as if it were On fire.
No disrespect to anyone but I am chuckling reading some of these posts. People giving up on winter, say It aint so. How many times have the models changed. We will be getting snow. There have been times here when no possible storms were to be found, and than they pop up. We will not go the winter without some good storms, trust me. This winter will not be snowless. We may just get that first storm as one that just kind of sneaks up on us. I bet you we will be tracking somthing next week. How many of us on the southshore thought they were going to wake up today with a snowcover, not me. Hang in there snowlovers your time is coming.
We went to the snug harbor fish market in Duxbury, John. My son found it. Got crab cakes, oysters on half shell and mussels. Yum – and then a fire on the beach – if you hear sirens we have been arrested 🙂
I have not heard of that.
What no clams for you.
We were heading to haddads but son had different plans. Fish market is great. Just came in from fire. I was wearing same light sweatshirt I wear in summer for beach fires. Go figure !! There was a spectacular perfect circle of clouds that formed around the moon!
So glad your having a good first week down here.
And you still have plenty of time left.
I think Tk would agree with me on saying hang in there the storms will be forming, and coming.
And there we r again Todd and the newscasters stressing they r not complaining and they can wait till next year to use the winter survival kit
Interesting…Todd on his 6:00 pm newscast said that it will turn cold for the rest of the month after Thursday’s rain.
And that will come with snow Philip.
JJ- hang in there buddy, the snow will come. JJ I am still somewhat shocked by your age, I just took you for being a little bit older. Your knowledge of weather is, well It speaks for Itself. I alway’s look forward to reading you weather thoughts. We will be tracking snow this month JJ, January will not go by without at least one good snow event.Again thank you for the weather knowledge that you present to us everyday here.
I enjoy reading your comments as they r most interesting but we weren’t gonna go snowless in dec, we were gonna have snow before mid month and now we r gonna get 1 storm in jan 🙂 I think we get under 3 inches for the month. Take it easy John , I’ll check back later.
I believe that post was for me Charlie. That was very kind.
Yes it was
Thanks John for your kind words. I been follwing weather since I was about 9 years old. Science and Math were my worst subjects in school which is why I did not pursue a career in meteorology.
No problem at all. I meant every word. you are very skilled when It comes to weather.
Last year to date I think most areas had 40 inches by this time
Last year to date we had 22 inches, with plenty more on the way.
During this time 16 years ago we were dealing with the blizzard of 96. Double digit snowfall amounts from D.C. north occurred including 30 inches in Philadelphia. This turned out to be the big one in a winter with over 100 inches of snow.
It feels like forever ago, I was a kid then haha
Missed a few days of school after that blizzard. Watching a few YouTube clips from that blizzard.
TK hope your dad is doing ok? Haven’t heard from you today so hoping everything is good.
I was thinking the same thing last night.
Harvey said again tonight at 11pm next Saturday’s pats game should still be cold and dry starting at 25 and ending at about 20. Of course he said again a week away and may need tweeking. The man who tells it like it is. By far the best met on tv.
Blue Hill is 40F, Worcester is 38F and Mt Washington is 27F. That is some serious warmth above us !!! It will be very interesting to see how warm it gets today !!!!
Sunrise is as spectacular as last nights sunset. Enjoy the day everyone!
On this clear morning, I’ll bet the sun coming up over the ocean was awesome. Enjoy the day Vicki !!!
43F at Buffalo, NY….opportunity for some sun and Taunton speculates on high temp potential today in its morning discussion. Beach day ?? 🙂
Joe Joyce this am hinted at a pattern breaker beginning next weekend. He used the words “more frequent shots of cold air” and a “different storm track.”
Also indicated some towns would see 55 today — BBQ weather. 🙂
Not only BBQ weather but tee it up for a round of golf in January. How often do you get to do that during this month?
My husband is kicking himself fir not bringing his clubs with us
Around 6:30 a.m. today the temp. in Sudbury was around 24 degrees. There were birds singing. With the shades closed it sounded like spring!
Have a great weekend everyone – and TK, hope your father is feeling better.
Wow, Worcester is 44F at 9am….I hope the wind picks up a bit and mixes things up this afternoon. 60F would be fun !!!
yesterday, at the same ob time, Worcester was 28F and it made it to a high of 47F. I’m not saying it will add 19F again for 63F, but if it adds 10F and then that air descends 1,000ft to the coastline…………
For me, there are positives to this unbelievable weather. I can already look at next week (Mon-Fri) and know that I’ve got no concerns of being up at 5am wondering if school is going to be cancelled or not. Out town starts school before Labor Day. We are scheduled to finish on June 12th. That would be great, as I think some of the year’s best weather is in June and for the first week after June 12th, I can go most anywhere without crowds as most other systems seem to always finish later. As an example, I know Hanover is finished June 20th. So, I’d like to see snow, but this alternative of snowless warmth doesnt discourage me either.
My school gets out on the 15th this year .honestly I would want to see my school on the bottom of the screen and the call on the phone that schools are closed. With my luck this year since i usually have bad luck = almost no snow days. since i am a senior and seniors do not need to make any of them up. Of course last year they had 9 snow days. this year two snow day as of now I do not know if they count or now since it was a state of emergency i think. 🙁 for the 2 inches of snow in october which melted the next day.
Finally, I’m pleased to see that sites like weather.com are no longer hyping 2 inch `snowstorms’ or 2-day cold periods with headlines like “winter is here” or “how is the winter weather affecting your commute?” Now, the headlines are more consistent with this extremely (and yes this is extreme folks, no November – January in my memory has been like this) anomalous pattern (which is not a normal La Nina situation, I think we should all agree on that). The pattern is not just impacting our region, and this is what makes this so bizarre. The entire (lower 48) nation is way too warm, the entire nation is facing severe snow deficits (and even water issues). The only thing this is good for is heating bills and snow removal budgets. As an economist I acknowledge that. Otherwise, however, it’s not good. Any weather pattern that is so deviant for such a long time runs contrary to nature’s normal course. Ecology gets affected, wildlife, plant-life, too.
Yes, I saw those maps showing how below normal snowcover is in the western US….. I had a thought….when the sun strength begins to return in earnest in late Feb/early March, if the west is still dry, then maybe it starts to warm up easily and the pattern evolves then to a western USA ridge, eastern USA trof ??
people should go and see what weather wizard posted on the wbz blog. Its really clever
WeatherWizard
Thanks Todd.
Twas the night before “REAL WINTER”, when all through New England
Not a model was stirring, not even a EURO mouse.
The “pattern” was hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that “Mighty Winter” soon would be there.
The “snow hounds” were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of “nor’easters danced in their heads.
And NAO in her ‘trend” and WBZ meteorologists in their blogs,
Had just settled their brains for a long winter’s rap.
When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from the bed to see what was the matter.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash.
The moon on the breast of the new-fallen “change”
Gave the lustre of mid-day to “weather” below.
When, what to my wondering eyes should appear,
But a “change in the pattern” oh my could be near.
With a little old driver, so lively and quick,
I knew in a moment it must be “Winter’s A Hit”.
More rapid than eagles his coursers they came,
And he whistled, and shouted, and called them by name!
“Now NAO! now, AO! now, GFS and NAM!
On, EURO! On, UKMET! on, on JMA and Canadi ann!
To the top of the porch! to the top of the Stratosphere!
Now dash away! Dash away! Snow to all!”
As dry leaves that before the wild “Irene” fly,
When they meet with an obstacle, “pattern” to the sky.
So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
With the” sleigh full of snow”, and “Pattern Change” too.
And then, in a twinkling, I heard on the roof
The prancing and pawing of each little “model”.
As I drew in my head, and was turning around,
Down the chimney “Winter” came with a bound.
It was dressed all in “White”, from Maine to Miami,
And his clothes were all tarnished with ice and snow.
A bundle of SNOW he had flung on his back,
And he looked like a peddler, just opening his pack.
His eyes-how they twinkled! his “forecast” how merry!
His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry!
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow,
And the beard of his chin was as white as the “snow”.
The stump of a pipe he held tight near his gizzard,
And the smoke it encircled his head like a blizzard.
He had a broad face and a little round belly,
That shook when he laughed, like a bowlful of jelly!
He sprang to his pattern, to his team gave a whistle,
And away they all flew like the down of a thistle.
But I heard him exclaim, ‘ere he drove out of sight,
“Pattern change to all” to all, and to all a good-night!”
That is incredibly clever.
We had coffee on the deck – no jackets – at 8:00. At 10:00 it was 45 here. It may not be snow but it is weather to talk about. My oldest is on her way here with our 3 yr old grand daughter. All of our kids and grands will be in a place that meant family from the time I was one because of my mom. It’s the 21st anniversary of her passing so I like to think she had a bit to do with beach weather in January 🙂
Vicki – your mother probably did help in making today a beautiful, mild day. And what a wonderful thing to have all the family together – truly your mother would be so proud of her family – and she is probably looking down smiling!
Thanks, Rainshine – I think she is too 🙂
When we were outside for the fire last night the clouds were incredible. They were billowy strips with spaces between showing the sky and a few stars. It looked like snow in an open field that the wind had blown into a series of mounds. Then they formed a perfect ring around the moon as they broke up. I thought of you and how much you would have enjoyed them
WOW, today’s SOI values are -16! Which means this La Nina is weakening rapidly.
QBO is down to 2.4, we want that to go negative, it was 8.5 last month.
Today’s Stratosphere outlook shows 2 PV breakdowns in the next 240 hours!
This is all going to create havoc for the models in the next few weeks.
This is today for the stratosphere
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat_a_f/gif_files/gfs_t50_nh_f00.gif
This is 240 hours out for the stratosphere
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/stratosphere/strat_a_f/gif_files/gfs_t50_nh_f240.gif
from HM:
Folks, the SOI yesterday fell to -16 which is just wild!. In My opinion, the La Nina is croaking and winter is about to take a hold on the country in a few weeks. Enjoy the warmth now, we are going to pay for it during the last half of winter into spring.
Just a note:
Those NAO/AO forecasts are only as good as the model that forecasts them.
I am ready for the snow bring on winter. I have not seen a flake of snow since the Pre Halloween Noreaster!
Where are you located?
I meant to say I have not seen an inch of snow since the Pre Halloween Noreaster. I have seen snow flakes.
As I mentioned last night 16 years ago we were dealing with the blizzard of 96. What a storm it was dumping double digit snowfall totals from D.C. up to SNE including 30 inches in Philadelphia. That winter turned out to be the snowiest on record with over 100 inches of snow. I wonder if thaat will happen in our lifetimes again. Its a storm I rank in my top 5 for biggest snow events in my lifetime and as many of you know I was not around for the blizzard of 78.
I remember it as a great storm!!
The blizzard of 78 was the first winter we were in Marshfield, I was six. We had no damage being on the main road, but the beach was right behind are house and had plenty of destruction. The water from the ocean was flowing right down ocean bluff where we were. We got evacuated. I remember I was mad because my sister rode in the firetruck and I was in a towtruck. Spent a couple days at the daniel webster school. The noname storm was the blizzard of 78 again, or worse just minus the snow. Same thing no damage, and water again flowing right down ocean bluff. Major damage involved with this one. As I was older now I remember all of the details. I would go up the street to the waterfront as all my friends had homes there. I was in and out that night to get dry. I would come home for maybe 30min to an hr. Each time I would walk up 8thrd to the waterfront I had to do a doubletake as 30 minutes prior there was a house standing. Houses were either washed away or so badly damaged they needed to be torn down. Half of BrantRock was washed away. I remember the morning after that storm all of the plows out removing all of the homes, foundations and cars that littered the road. I will never forget the noname storm, never.
John we came down here right after the no name storm. The damage was incredible. I can’t imagine living here to see it. Terrifying and awe inspiring all rolled into one
Vicki I will never forget it. Though Marshfield was hit really hard, Scituate was even worse. Neighborhoods and beaches just washed away.
The end of the 12z GFS is a good laugh..
With 2 possible PV breakdowns coming up, I don’t think any model will be able to perform well in the long range.
Just hit 57
Spring time in winter but it looks like after the rainorma on Thursday the pattern MAY finally change and it might feel like winter around here.
I hope you’re right, JJ. By the way, I love reading your posts.
Thank you Joshua for your kind words.
CPC outlooks for both the 6-10 and 8-14 day outlooks show below normal temps and I have not seen that in a while. To me when the colder air comes in behind the storm system will it be brief which has been the case since the Pre Halloween Noreaster or will it have some staying power???
61 in Humarock
What month is this??? It feel like Mayuary!
56 here! Amazing!
The year of NO WINTER!!! lol
Didn’t you know? We are having a “January thaw”! 🙂
Except we never had winter yet! LOL!
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
my home made weather station has recorded a high today of 58.9 degrees currently 52.
humidity 49% wind coming from the south and south west at 3 to 8 mph. When i see wind coming from the southwest it usually means warm weather.
Also it usually means marsh smell will come up into the yard. yuck
I probably would not be able to make snow anytime soon with my snow makers
With no snow pack around, any air that comes our way doesn’t cool off as it travels the country.
12z EURO shows a pretty chilly air mass coming over us for next weekend. Not sure how long that will stick around for though.
Hi faithful bloggers!
Feeling a touch under the weather (no pun intended), but still taking advantage of the great day to get my outside decorations down and put away. Don’t worry, I’m taking a break to watch all 3 periods of the game… 🙂
Just tossed in a quick update.
I will catch up on comments/replies here in a little while, so please check back here as well as on the new blog if there is any need for follow-ups.
And Dad is doing well at the moment. Resting at home but getting up and moving around periodically, and driving my mom crazy I’m sure. 😉