18 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – September 22 2021”

  1. Massachusetts reports 4,568 new breakthrough COVID-19 cases in the last week.

    https://www.wcvb.com/article/massachusetts-breakthrough-covid-19-cases-sept-21-2021/37681317#

    Of course they report the break throughs as a percent of totally vaccinated residents. (4.59 million) which is a paltry
    0.1 % (0.995)

    But if you look at it in terms of new cases, then it paints a totally different story!

    Here is the latest Massachusetts Covid Dashboard

    https://ibb.co/grbgxvT

    It shows a weekly daily average of 1222 cases

    7 x 1222 = 8,554 cases in the last week of which
    4,568 were break through cases, an Astounding percentage of
    53.4 percent,

    You will note that not one media outlet talks about break throughs in this manner!

    Are they afraid to cause panic and yet more vaccine hesitancy?

    It is not right!

    1. I am so tired of half truths by both media and our health experts. I honestly don’t know what to trust any more. I spoke to my brother in NH last night. They are hearing 3,6,8 months between last vaccine and third. Yet I read from others that I’m more inclined to trust that the spacing makes a difference.

    2. And what’s the % of these breakthrough cases that are in the hospital, and death rate? That’s the most telling. In the end I hate to say this but by the end of 2022 most of us will have gotten Covid and lived to talk about it.

    1. Must be run by trumpsters. My God how can they be doing this!)(@&#*&!@*(#^*(!@&#*(!&@(*#!(*@#^(*!^@#$&*(^!@*(#$^(!*@^#$*(!&*@(#(&!*@#&*(!@&#(*!@#(*!&*@#

      1. They have always had a stellar rep. I’m thinking there has to be an explanation. Maybe you need a script? Still I think this kind of advertising is baiting. Any physician prescribing it will tell the person where to go

        CVS put a huge store across from Hopkinton drug years ago. I suspect you know where it is, JPD. I am sure they are struggling but this sure doesn’t seem like the responsible solution.

  2. Both figures remain a tiny percentage of the total number of all people who have been vaccinated — just 0.02% of vaccinated people are hospitalized, and 0.71% have been infected. An even smaller percentage has died: 0.005%

      1. Not only does it pay dividends but should allow people to go about their daily lives without having to live in fear. The science is clear that the vaccines work. Maybe not at preventing it as we had hoped but certainly keeping you out of the hospital or death.

        1. Frankly I would prefer not to get the virus at all. There is still that LONG Covid to deal with well after recovery, even if it’s a quick one.

  3. You’ve heard me talk about the UK plateau before. Today’s UK numbers reflect that very long plateau they’ve been on for two months: 34,460 cases, 166 deaths, 7,567 (total) in hospital. I’ve mentioned the plateau multiple times since early August and have written about it, too, in Forbes. I think that this is where the U.S. is headed soon if we can get our vaccination rate level with Britain’s. We’re 4 times larger in terms of population (so our plateau would be ~ 4x numbers of UK deaths and hospitalizations. But, our case level is harder to calculate, as we do much less testing than Britain. Is it a great place to be? No. But, it is better than where we are now.

  4. Three very different public health problems, which the U.S. has done a poor job addressing, compared to all its peers.

    1. The U.S. will surpass 700,000 recorded Covid-19 deaths at some point tomorrow. 800,000 is likely by the end of the year, and it’ll probably be a higher number.

    These are not inevitable numbers. We could have done much better, and still can (we’re losing >2,000 a day). But, we did not, and we will not.

    2. HIV/AIDS has killed 725,000 Americans since 1981.

    This is also not an inevitable number. We could have done much better, and still can (in recent years we lose on average 13,000 people to AIDS annually, despite having therapeutics that prevent death). But, we did not and we will not.

    3. Since 1999 more than 650,000 Americans have died from opioid (illicit and licit) overdose, misuse, and abuse.

    This is also not an inevitable number. We could have done much better, and still can (in recent year we lose 42,000 people to opioid-related deaths). But we did not and we will not.

    There is little willpower in the U.S. to truly address public health issues head on. From infant mortality to suicide to the three problems mentioned above, the contrast is so stark compared to our peers. This doesn’t mean that they don’t have problems. They do. But, they address them (mostly) effectively. We don’t. And, this is not talked about enough. Not even by self-proclaimed progressive Democrats in Congress.

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