40 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – December 2 2021”

  1. Potentially good news from NyT

    “The first Israeli to test positive for the Omicron variant interacted with dozens of people. Only one has tested positive since.

    The results have given some experts cautious hope that triple-vaccinated people may not be as vulnerable as was first feared.”

      1. Thank you for asking. The truck hasn’t run me over as it did after #2 🙂 I’m not 100% but that is easily handled. Oddly, rather than fever and aches and chills, my stomach seems to be upset. I’m using ig as an excuse to spend another day doing nothing. Although my daughter keeps reminding me that doing nothing doesn’t mean popping up and down from the couch every two minutes to do just get one little thing done. I may binge watch Yellowstone if I can get into it.

        A very long way to say….I’m doing much much better than anticipated 🙂 🙂 Can you tell I’m bored !

  2. News from my office yesterday.

    Only 100 of 152 staff members are vaccinated.

    My boss wanted to know when I would be in the office next.
    My response: When all staff are fully vaccinated.

    So far, I am still employed, but expect to have to leave my position if the issue is forced.

    I am NOT going into that office with unvaccinated people.

      1. Too bad that office isn’t making vaccinations mandatory. You work exclusively with the elderly, correct?

            1. What amounts to a 66% vaccination rate for an office of that nature should NOT be acceptable. I can understand you not willing to work in that environment.

  3. Here is the MA Covid Dashboard updated to include
    yesterday’s totals.

    If you include the probable cases, then there were well
    over 5,000 new cases yesterday. But the pandemic is over! Ha NOT!!!

    https://ibb.co/JdvqCrp

  4. I tend to run hot and cold when it comes to Heather Cox Richardson. She had an interesting post today. I took a screen shot of the first part so I don’t take up too much space here.

    The last paragraph on Trump was curious. Anyone paying attention knew he was positive before he announced he had covid. His doctor let it slip to the nation. But really…..now he says the original positive was false and he just happened to be positive a few days later.

    https://imgur.com/a/tyw7edb

    As soon as today’s story broke, Trump’s spokesperson called it “Fake News.” Tonight on the strongly pro-Trump network Newsmax, Meadows echoed Trump and agreed the story was “fake news” and said that the positive test was “a false positive.”

  5. NyT

    “ A commercial for the supermarket chain Tesco featuring Santa Claus wielding a vaccine passport was deemed acceptable by British advertising regulators after viewers submitted a near-record number of complaints that the spot promoted vaccination.

    Most of the 5,000 complaints received claimed that the ad, which was posted in mid-November, tried to pressure viewers into getting vaccines and encouraged medical discrimination based on vaccine status, according to the Advertising Standards Authority.

    Toby King, a spokesman for the agency, said on Thursday that the commercial “doesn’t break our rules and there are no grounds for further action.”

  6. Vicki, I’m glad to hear you’re doing okay. I know you’re not 100% but your system appears to be working as it should.

    My latest is on Covid-19 in pregnant women. https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2021/12/02/dutch-study-confirms-that-covid-19-in-pregnant-women-can-lead-to-stillbirths/?sh=1e54f355dcd1

    Europe is red or crimson, as the wave continues to wreak havoc. While increases have tempered – slope of curve has flattened somewhat – the numbers are still very high. Hospitalizations and deaths, too. Sure, they’re lower than the winter wave, but not by that much.
    https://twitter.com/ECDC_EU/status/1466399624692912128

    1. Thank you, Joshua. The truck I mentioned to SC earlier must have been delayed in traffic. It hit a bit ago but softer. No fever. Chills and aches. You are right that my body is doing what it should.

  7. This graph depicts how the Netherlands is right up against its ICU limit (1,150 beds). In previous waves, they were able to move patients to Germany. But, Germany is also right up against it. There are currently 605 Covid-19 patients in the ICU, and 435 non-Covid-19 patients. Many operations, including those for cancer and cardiology patients are being canceled. To create room in the ICU, some patients who would normally be in the ICU are being monitored in a regular hospital setting. This improvisation involves moving some ICU equipment that’s in hospital storage spaces to the regular hospital floors.
    https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2021/12/02/808284/xxl.jpg

    1. What is scarier is that his tweet has 15,200 likes …….

      I don´t try to even change minds on this. Not worth the energy.

      The ultimate calm for me is I´ll carry on with my booster and the next and next booster if need be and those folks can carry on without. I like my chances better long term. 🙂

    2. My wife got some very sad news today from her previous husband. His brother was one of these “Real Americans” living in Idaho. He died of Covid-19 at age 61 leaving a much younger wife and a young child. The end was horrible because he was intubated and in an induced coma. The family was not allowed to see him until the very last moment. The family is both saddened and angry.

      1. This breaks my heart. I send sincere sympathy to your wife, her ex husbands wife and young child and to you.

  8. According to the “6 month rule” I will be due for booster #2 (or shot #4) in March 2022.

    Joshua, do you believe it will be that way for everyone? More boosters to follow?

  9. SClarke, I’m very sorry to hear about your ex-wife’s husband’s brother.

    Philip, unfortunately I don’t know whether boosting will become a regular every 6 month thing. I doubt it. I think that once cases truly ebb there will be less need for boosters for people who aren’t vulnerable.

    1. Thanks Joshua. Not that it really matters, but the man who died was my wife’s ex-husband’s brother. In any case, this is the terrible kind of thing that makes this mess all too real.

      1. I think its nearly 10,000 …. (9,909 if I recall correctly) statewide in the past 2 weeks. Students and staff combined.

  10. Partially related subject matter…

    I don’t know how the side effects of a flu vaccine tend to be, but I was curious here who has gotten one this autumn and what if any side effects you’ve gotten.

    I have not been vaccinated for the seasonal flu in quite a long while until this year. I had it just over 24 hours ago (late yesterday afternoon) and other than a tiny bit of soreness right where the injection was (no muscle pain like the covid vaccines) I have no other side effects of note.

    1. You were lucky to get an appointment. My son in law can’t get one.

      I only had a slightly sore arm. My grandkids said the same.

      1. I happened to have a regular doctor visit scheduled on December 1 and they offered it there. 🙂

    1. Nothing looks good right now. U.S. reports 139,424 new coronavirus cases, the biggest one-day increase since September. So, the Thanksgiving bump is here already.

      This will sound strange, but I’m rooting for Delta ,,, to outcompete Omicron. The data from South Africa on hospitalizations is bad, and especially hospitalizations/ICU among younger folks, even toddlers.

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