Speaking of mandates, I do not understand the Red Sox’ lax policy. It’s clearly hurting the team to have players like Houck not be able to go to Canada because they’re not vaccinated. If this is a union thing (union doesn’t allow for vaccine mandates), then I wonder if this also applies to traditional childhood vaccinations. If it does, then shame on the union.
I’ll reiterate what I’ve said before, long before Covid ALL of my employers in the U.S. required numerous health forms from doctors, extensive proofs of vaccination (I’ve even had to get boosters, as the employers deemed my shots out of date), and even TB tests, prior to being able to work. For the life of me, I will never understand the issue people have with Covid vaccine mandates. If it’s because there may be side effects, well, ALL vaccines have side effects. The vast majority of side effects are minor. I actually had a fairly major side effect when I was forced to get a booster MMR to be able to work at Harvard University. I got a case of (attenuated) mumps. I was sick with a fever and my cheeks were very swollen for days (looked like a chipmunk). Does this mean I disagree with Harvard’s policy? No. Harvard has every right to make sure all employees are fully vaccinated.
Up until the pandemic, I don’t recall any of my employers (dating back to my very first job right after high school) requiring any proof of vaccination documents. I have been with my current employer since 2016 and they didn’t require any health documents at the time. Of course now, Covid-19 vaccinations are required upon hiring and to remain employed.
Whenever I was a college student, however, I did need to show proof of those typical childhood vaccinations.
I also do not recall ever being asked for proof of vaccine by an employer.
I understand a bit of vaccine hesitancy….not if it is for political reasons only. mRNA is a relatively new type of vaccine and has a history of spotty testing. For young children, there isn’t enough data to know it’s impact over the years simply because it hasn’t been tested long enough. For some adults and mid aged folks, the risk of either carditis may be a factor.
I believe despite this, that many parents weighed the Covid risk and chose to have children vaccinated. The majority of my grands are fully vaccinated. I pray, though, that down the road this doesn’t backfire.
Looking back on my first job which was in a nursing home no less, I don’t recall any vaccination requirement. My duties were to answer phones at the reception desk and handle mail as it came in. The only “contact” I had with the residents was handing them their mail or packages when they stopped by to pick them up. I have no idea if the nursing, dining or kitchen staff had any vaccination requirements. In today’s society it would certainly be expected for those types of positions but back in 1978-82, who knows? Of course we all know the debacle at the Holyoke Soldiers Home at the beginning of the pandemic.
I sometimes live on the edge of conspiracy theory and reality so It’s hard for me to ignore how “convenient” it was that COVID enabled mRNA tech to be fast tracked. A company like Moderna that was primarily mRNA and had no products (but plenty of money and press clippings full of empty promises) is now the world leader in mRNA tech with a never ending pipeline. Makes one really take a minute to think…
VP Harris tested positive for Covid
I believe her husband tested positive either last month or the month before. I wonder if it will be a matter of time when POTUS and/or FLOTUS gets it next.
I’m learning a lot about SC and Covid. One child is in Charleston and my brothers sister-in-law is at myrtle beach. I’m hearing while the people might not be particularly careful re Covid, but businesses sure are. The many restaurants have curb side as do groceries and other businesses. A photo my brothers SIL sent me last night showed her out to dinner. The table had a sign that said “this table has been sterilized.” They watched the next table being cleaned when it was vacated and said the staff did a very thorough job.
Maybe some places closer to Boston do this, but I am not aware of it out this way
Thank you for your responses on proofs of vaccination/health checks. I am really surprised, because my four employers in the U.S. – Department of Veterans Affairs, Andersen Consulting, Harvard University, and Tufts University – all required proofs of vaccination, TB (Mantoux) test, and a lengthy doctor’s note (including a physical exam). Two of the employers deemed my vaccination status inadequate and required boosters, which I had to take prior to entering the offices to begin my work. Also, my children could not attend school here without showing proofs of vaccination and physical exams. Notably, the requirements overseas with my employers and my childrens’ schools were much more relaxed (less stringent).
I’m thinking the type of employer makes the difference. Schools have always required proof of vaccination. I sure get both Tufts and Harvard and maybe also dept of VA affairs. Not sure about the Anderson. The electrical engineering dept didn’t require any proof from employees or clients who came from all over the world. Not did they have vaccine requirements. When I settled into my last position (2001-2019), my business associate and I worked from our homes. But we had meetings throughout the year with banks throughout the eastern half of the country. And we both worked at Babson every spring for two sessions of the New England school of financial studies. It was in the executive building and not in classrooms though.
By the way, in order to get a green card (to be able to work in the U.S. as a foreigner) you’re required to undergo a government-sponsored extensive physical, which includes HIV testing, proofs of many kinds of vaccinations, a TB test, and a sworn affidavit. The U.S. policy is MUCH stricter than any other nation I know. For example, no other country I know requires an HIV test.
I recall several of Mac’s co workers who had green cars saying the same. To me that makes absolute sense.
Yes, but that also applies to folks from all around the world who live here and work. They’ve all had to go through the same or similar visa/green card process, which is very rigorous when it comes to testing (HIV and TB) and vaccinations.
You are right that, with the exception of Andersen Consulting, the entities I’ve worked for/with are universities and a healthcare system. But, I’ve heard from others who work, for example, at consulting firms that they have certain vaccine requirements (not just Covid), and also biopharmaceutical firms in Cambridge. Not that they all have such requirements, but I think some do.
Bio pharmaceutical companies make sense.
That is what I mean re those who worked with Mac and had green cards. They were from other countries.
And as you know, Mac’s dad was Goodyear’s go to man to bring underperforming international branches up to speed. Even back in 1951 when they left on their first of many adventures for Sweden, they were required to have certain vaccines.
I don’t know of any private company within the US that has ever done this though
C-19 for 4-27 is ready.
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Your no-hype southeastern New England weather blog!
Thanks TK.
Covid-19 wastewater levels have actually declined around the Boston area.
Article on Newark, NJ’s vaccine mandate among police officers. 9 police officers in that city died of Covid prior to the mandate. None have died since.
https://twitter.com/JuliaRaifman/status/1518943614944088065
Speaking of mandates, I do not understand the Red Sox’ lax policy. It’s clearly hurting the team to have players like Houck not be able to go to Canada because they’re not vaccinated. If this is a union thing (union doesn’t allow for vaccine mandates), then I wonder if this also applies to traditional childhood vaccinations. If it does, then shame on the union.
I’ll reiterate what I’ve said before, long before Covid ALL of my employers in the U.S. required numerous health forms from doctors, extensive proofs of vaccination (I’ve even had to get boosters, as the employers deemed my shots out of date), and even TB tests, prior to being able to work. For the life of me, I will never understand the issue people have with Covid vaccine mandates. If it’s because there may be side effects, well, ALL vaccines have side effects. The vast majority of side effects are minor. I actually had a fairly major side effect when I was forced to get a booster MMR to be able to work at Harvard University. I got a case of (attenuated) mumps. I was sick with a fever and my cheeks were very swollen for days (looked like a chipmunk). Does this mean I disagree with Harvard’s policy? No. Harvard has every right to make sure all employees are fully vaccinated.
Up until the pandemic, I don’t recall any of my employers (dating back to my very first job right after high school) requiring any proof of vaccination documents. I have been with my current employer since 2016 and they didn’t require any health documents at the time. Of course now, Covid-19 vaccinations are required upon hiring and to remain employed.
Whenever I was a college student, however, I did need to show proof of those typical childhood vaccinations.
I also do not recall ever being asked for proof of vaccine by an employer.
I understand a bit of vaccine hesitancy….not if it is for political reasons only. mRNA is a relatively new type of vaccine and has a history of spotty testing. For young children, there isn’t enough data to know it’s impact over the years simply because it hasn’t been tested long enough. For some adults and mid aged folks, the risk of either carditis may be a factor.
I believe despite this, that many parents weighed the Covid risk and chose to have children vaccinated. The majority of my grands are fully vaccinated. I pray, though, that down the road this doesn’t backfire.
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/the-long-history-of-mrna-vaccines
Looking back on my first job which was in a nursing home no less, I don’t recall any vaccination requirement. My duties were to answer phones at the reception desk and handle mail as it came in. The only “contact” I had with the residents was handing them their mail or packages when they stopped by to pick them up. I have no idea if the nursing, dining or kitchen staff had any vaccination requirements. In today’s society it would certainly be expected for those types of positions but back in 1978-82, who knows? Of course we all know the debacle at the Holyoke Soldiers Home at the beginning of the pandemic.
I sometimes live on the edge of conspiracy theory and reality so It’s hard for me to ignore how “convenient” it was that COVID enabled mRNA tech to be fast tracked. A company like Moderna that was primarily mRNA and had no products (but plenty of money and press clippings full of empty promises) is now the world leader in mRNA tech with a never ending pipeline. Makes one really take a minute to think…
VP Harris tested positive for Covid
I believe her husband tested positive either last month or the month before. I wonder if it will be a matter of time when POTUS and/or FLOTUS gets it next.
I’m learning a lot about SC and Covid. One child is in Charleston and my brothers sister-in-law is at myrtle beach. I’m hearing while the people might not be particularly careful re Covid, but businesses sure are. The many restaurants have curb side as do groceries and other businesses. A photo my brothers SIL sent me last night showed her out to dinner. The table had a sign that said “this table has been sterilized.” They watched the next table being cleaned when it was vacated and said the staff did a very thorough job.
Maybe some places closer to Boston do this, but I am not aware of it out this way
Thank you for your responses on proofs of vaccination/health checks. I am really surprised, because my four employers in the U.S. – Department of Veterans Affairs, Andersen Consulting, Harvard University, and Tufts University – all required proofs of vaccination, TB (Mantoux) test, and a lengthy doctor’s note (including a physical exam). Two of the employers deemed my vaccination status inadequate and required boosters, which I had to take prior to entering the offices to begin my work. Also, my children could not attend school here without showing proofs of vaccination and physical exams. Notably, the requirements overseas with my employers and my childrens’ schools were much more relaxed (less stringent).
I’m thinking the type of employer makes the difference. Schools have always required proof of vaccination. I sure get both Tufts and Harvard and maybe also dept of VA affairs. Not sure about the Anderson. The electrical engineering dept didn’t require any proof from employees or clients who came from all over the world. Not did they have vaccine requirements. When I settled into my last position (2001-2019), my business associate and I worked from our homes. But we had meetings throughout the year with banks throughout the eastern half of the country. And we both worked at Babson every spring for two sessions of the New England school of financial studies. It was in the executive building and not in classrooms though.
By the way, in order to get a green card (to be able to work in the U.S. as a foreigner) you’re required to undergo a government-sponsored extensive physical, which includes HIV testing, proofs of many kinds of vaccinations, a TB test, and a sworn affidavit. The U.S. policy is MUCH stricter than any other nation I know. For example, no other country I know requires an HIV test.
I recall several of Mac’s co workers who had green cars saying the same. To me that makes absolute sense.
Yes, but that also applies to folks from all around the world who live here and work. They’ve all had to go through the same or similar visa/green card process, which is very rigorous when it comes to testing (HIV and TB) and vaccinations.
You are right that, with the exception of Andersen Consulting, the entities I’ve worked for/with are universities and a healthcare system. But, I’ve heard from others who work, for example, at consulting firms that they have certain vaccine requirements (not just Covid), and also biopharmaceutical firms in Cambridge. Not that they all have such requirements, but I think some do.
Bio pharmaceutical companies make sense.
That is what I mean re those who worked with Mac and had green cards. They were from other countries.
And as you know, Mac’s dad was Goodyear’s go to man to bring underperforming international branches up to speed. Even back in 1951 when they left on their first of many adventures for Sweden, they were required to have certain vaccines.
I don’t know of any private company within the US that has ever done this though
C-19 for 4-27 is ready.