23 thoughts on “C-19 Chat Post – May 20 2022”

    1. Yes, and that makes no sense. I’d be fine with a more libertarian viewpoint – which is Baker’s modus operandi, anyway – “I don’t believe government should mandate … it’s personal responsibility” rather than a nonsensical reason. Vaccines do not prevent transmission. The rising numbers of hospitalizations are mostly vaccinated people. This doesn’t mean vaccines have failed. But, it does mean they’re not a panacea.

  1. Monkeypox is spreading rapidly throughout Europe. When I say “rapidly” I mean relative to the spread of the monkeypox virus at any time in the history of the virus. Something has changed. We’re fools – well, the epidemiologists and other experts – to deny this reality. I just read this morning that a German virologist at a press conference stated that the detected cases in Germany and Belgium today are the tip of an iceberg. He’s right, in my opinion. Something has changed to make this virus much more transmissible. Its lethality is around 1%. How long will we have to wait until CDC has a presser on this?

    1. The data in the graph ends at or before Feb 1, 2022, the publication date of the linked NY Times article. I wonder what the most recent four months or so look like.

      1. Good point. But, it’s probably the same or even worse, given that Omicron impacted us later than Europe. The only exception to the rule would be the UK, perhaps.

  2. We do not have a functional CDC, and haven’t for decades. Case in point is monkeypox. Have any of you seen Walensky say anything about monkeypox? I know I haven’t. Maybe I missed something. Please let me know if I did.

    In any event, I sense very slow motion on the part of CDC, always in reactive and never in proactive mode. And frankly, I don’t get it.

    The Dutch just discovered the first case in the country. They’re a very sober-minded people; even-keeled and the like. Public health officials there said right away that “more” will be found in the coming days. This is a “serious outbreak.”

    They emphasized there is “no need for panic, but we all have to be alert, doctors and patients must report any symptoms mimicking monkeypox to the authorities along with contact tracing.”

    And, like his counterparts throughout Europe the Dutch head of their CDC “we must do everything we can to stop this outbreak now.” What this precisely means still needs to be hammered out. Note, it certainly does NOT mean lockdown.

  3. Based on photos from monkey pox victims, this disease leaves very disgusting pimples. Just looking at them makes me quiver and itch. 2-4 weeks worth.

    BEYOND disgusting!!!

  4. According to Baker, as long as you have been vaccinated for smallpox, you are automatically protected from monkeypox.

    Joshua, is he correct? I’m beginning not to trust anything he says anymore.

    1. Mostly correct. It’s about 85% protective. But most people have not been vaccinated for smallpox.

        1. I seem to recall having a scar from the smallpox vaccine. Can’t find it now. Mac and family had the vaccine as it was required for them to travel out of the country and to other countries

          1. My grandmother had a small crater in her upper arm but it was from the polio vaccine

            1. Hmmm. Wonder if that was mine. I know smallpox was Mac’s. Although I read smallpox was standard in 1950 along with dpt

              1. I stand corrected. It was the smallpox vaccine. Looked up what it looks like, exactly what hers was.

                1. Tested negative again but now I have my kids’ cold. In laws just returned from Italy but we’re making them wait 10 days to see the kids

        1. I had seen that also. Mac’s scar was very visible. Mine not so much. I wonder if there is a blood test showing small pox antibodies

          I had one for measles a few years ago. My pediatrician diagnosed me several times with German measles. My mom insisted one was actual measles but he said no. Turns out my blood test showed my mom was right

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