Mid-storm, and things are mostly on track based on expectation. Elongated low pressure passing just off our South Coast today starts to intensify as it moves east northeast and starts to pull away. Areas that have seen several to quite a few inches of snow will see another few to several inches today from “part 2”, and areas that have had little or no snowfall are in for a flash freeze and a couple to a few inches of snow as the cold air comes back into those areas, as explained in yesterday’s post. Everything winds down this evening as low pressure pulls away. And just to review, adding what is still to come in snowfall, it should bring the area generally into the ranges posted yesterday. Those are…
Outer Cape Cod, Nantucket, Martha’s Vineyard: 1/2 to 2 inches mostly midday and afternoon Sunday.
Rhode Island and Massachusetts South Coast to coastal Plymouth County MA as well as the tip of Cape Ann MA: 2 to 4 inches.
Coastal NH through Eastern Essex County MA through Boston to Providence including I-95, to Southeastern CT: 4-8 inches.
Interior southern NH through central MA to northeastern CT: 8-12 inches.
Keep in mind that even in these ranges there can always be pockets of lighter or heavier amounts due to local effects and mesoscale to microscale synoptic anomalies.
And how about the weather after this, including the next storm threat? Generally the same idea as yesterday, but let’s expand on that a little more. Monday’s a bright, tranquil winter day as high pressure moves in. Monday night is a cold one with high pressure overhead and great radiational cooling over snowcover with a clear sky above and light wind. The next storm is coming for late Tuesday into Wednesday in the form of potent low pressure to pass just west of our region. Even though we have a nice temperature rebound Tuesday off the very cold early morning lows, there will still be enough cold air around for the storm to start as snow/mix over some inland and especially higher elevation locations, before rain takes over. I’m going to lean a bit more away from freezing rain but still cannot rule it out in a few pockets well inland northwest of Boston. Will keep an eye on that as we get closer to the event. The main threats with the next storm will be flooding from heavy rainfall and damaging wind with additional power outages possibilities. Coastal issues should be minimal with astronomical lower tides this time. Wednesday will be a very mild day as the storm peaks early then pulls away. Dry, cooler weather comes behind it all on Thursday.
TODAY: Overcast with snow likely except rain across much of the South Coast to MA South Shore which will change to snow by midday/afternoon. Flash freeze occurs this afternoon in areas seeing rain to start the day. Highs occurring early to mid-morning ranging widely from 28-35 northwest of Boston to 35-42 Boston south and southeast, followed by a temperature fall into the 20s from northwest to southeast midday on. Wind E 10-20 MPH with gusts above 30 MPH in coastal areas especially Cape Cod through midday, then shifting to N 5-15 MPH except 15-25 MPH coastal areas during the afternoon.
TONIGHT: Mostly cloudy with lingering light snow showers in the evening. Clearing overnight. Lows 18-25. Wind NW 5-15 MPH but higher gusts.
MONDAY: Sunny. Highs 31-38. Wind NW 5-15 MPH.
MONDAY NIGHT: Clear. Lows 12-19. Wind calm.
TUESDAY: Increasing clouds. Highs 33-40. Wind calm becoming SE 5-15 MPH.
TUESDAY NIGHT: Overcast. Rain arriving except a period of snow than freezing rain possible some interior locations. Lows 30-37 evening, then rising temperature overnight. Wind SE 10-20 MPH inland, 20-30 MPH coast, with higher gusts.
WEDNESDAY: Overcast with rain morning. Breaking clouds with additional rain showers afternoon. Highs 48-55. Wind SE 15-35 MPH with potential stronger gusts, shifting to SW.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT: Partly cloudy. Lows 30-37. Wind SW 10-20 MPH.
THURSDAY: Partly cloudy. A late-day rain or snow shower possible. Highs 40-47. Wind W 10-20 MPH.
DAYS 6-10 (JANUARY 12-16)
An active weather pattern continues. Next storm threat comes early in the holiday weekend (focused on January 13). More detail for this next update.
DAYS 11-15 (JANUARY 17-21)
Next storm signal is in the January 18-19 window. Temperatures variable, but near to above normal for the period.
My only complaint was the insistence on the NWS and some mets (NOT TK, Pete or Eric) that the precipitation intensity would ocercome the marine layer and produce SNOW even at the coast. CLEARLY they were DEAD wrong and that is what I am PISSED at. I understand the storm is not over and that phase 2 is likely to deliver. That is not my issue.
Those NWS mets “should” be smart enough to know what
that marine layer would do! TK, PETE and ERIC were!!!!!
Those 3 were basing their coastal numbers based on phase 2 and little or nothing from phase1. NWS and others had higher numbers because the EXPECTED the snow to win out over the marine layer.
So that is my rant for this morning……
Btw, over all I am not pissed or upset. I am not the least bit surprised at what transpired. Not in the least. See many of my previous posts leading up to this event.
However, I am pissed that professional mets actually thought that the snow would overcome the marine layer. SHAME on them!! Again NOT TK, Pete and Eric and perhaps others, but there were enough on the SNOW TRAIN!
Air temp / water temp !!!
Good morning and thank you TK. Excellent job!!
Back to snow again here as intensity picked up a tad. 🙂
I assumed the intensity wasn’t matching the radar, but I just stuck my hand out the front door and my fear was realized, RAIN is mixing in. Temp has crept up to 34.
It was raining here a while ago,, but is now back to light snow.
You’ll be snow as soon as intensity picks up a bit
Thank you, TK, and kudos for another job well done!
Thanks to everyone, also, who add their incredible knowledge here!!!
Coating of slop here in Taunton. 35 degrees with 0.37″ of precip.
Thanks TK
WPC Excessive Rainfall Outlook for the next storm
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/ero.php?opt=curr&day=3
Radar is slowly filling in. Get ready!!!
Would help IF I posted the radar
https://radar.weather.gov/station/KBOX/standard
Reposting these what’s left to expect maps
https://ibb.co/rmRGZm6
HRRR and NAM ONLY have about 3 inches for Boston from here on.
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=nam&p=snku_acc-imp&rh=2024010712&fh=24&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=nam&p=snku_acc-imp&rh=2024010712&fh=24&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
At least Boston will pull ahead of NY in the snowfall standings if the guidance pans out. Currently a tie with 0.2 inches.
Thanks TK. Temp has dropped here in Coventry to 29 after topping off at 32 around 7am. Very light snow at the moment and we have received a solid coating since I removed the first 6”. Will do a final measurement this evening when we get back from Foxborough.
Putting all my ski attire on now and leaving shortly. Will report this PM from Gillette.
Thanks, TK.
Thanks TK.
NWS/BOX discussion on the winds for Tuesday night and Wednesday:
The last sentence concerning the possible hoisting of a Hurricane Force Wind Watch/Warning for the first time in nearly six years has caught my attention.
Confidence still is the highest at this point for strong to damaging
winds. The latest NAEFS/EPS guidance keeps trending upward.
Currently showing winds 4-6 STD above model climatology! Ensembles
indicating this at the 850 hPa level, which are progged at this
point by deterministic guidance with speeds of 60-90+ kts generally
out of the south. The big question is how much of these winds mix
down. At this point are only starting to get on the outer periphery
of the NAM guidance for Bufkit soundings, so have focused on the GFS
Bufkit soundings for now. At this point they show 60-70 kts of winds
roughly 500-1000 ft AGL across the Cape/Islands. Further inland
values are still nothing to scoff at with 40-50 kts roughly 1000 ft
AGL. Would like to get more of a look at the NAM and convective
allowing guidance window to have a better feel on the mixing, as the
GFS tends to overmix. Given the signals have still stuck with the
higher NBM guidance (tends to overdue winds). The EPS guidance
continuing to indicate moderate to high probs (40-100%) of gusts AOA
50 kts across the eastern MA coast. Further inland probs are low to
moderate (<10 to 40%) from eastern CT into RI and eastern portions
of central MA. The EPS also still showing low to moderate (10-60%)
probs of gusts AOA 64 kts across SE MA, Cape Ann and the waters.
Anticipate that High Wind Watches will be needed in later updates
for the land. Looks like there will be at least Storm Force gusts,
but may actually be a situation where we need Hurricane Force Wind
Watches in later updates. For context last time we needed to issue a
Hurricane Force Wind Watch (or Warning) was in March of 2018.
And once again, it is RAINING here!
We should be in the last hour of mixed or flip flop from Boston to Quincy, and then from there it will progress southward as a flip to snow and an increase in intensity. But not all at once. It’s a process that will take the next 6 to 8 hours to be complete.
Sorry JpDave.
Snow has started to pick up again here.
Thanks TK.
Andover MA, 32 to 21 in under 1/2 hour a short while ago.
Snowing here again. Temp still 35. Not dropping yet. 🙂
Thanks, TK. I really appreciate this blog!
(The planned trip to Natick this morning is mercifully cancelled.)
Stay safe!
What’s preventing the coastal front moving through Boston? As nearby as Bedford it’s 27F.
The temp will drop when the wind shifts as the low starts to lift a bit more to the N in latitude while it moves east in longitude.
Basically the exact way that I described it would happen.
Boston’s snow comes MIDDAY and AFTERNOON.
Thanks TK.
Where is Hadi this morning
With family relaxing and enjoying my dad.
That’s good family is everything & I enjoy seeing your family on FB. All kidding aside I hope you get that snow during the second push soon , enjoy your day !!
Did you need something? The storm isn’t done yet if that’s what you are eluding to. I doubt you were looking for me to say hi.
Sure I was , doesn’t matter the outcome we are all amongst friends
Still snowing lightly here, but not really accumulating.
Logan has dropped from 36 to 35 and the wind has backed some more. Now NE.
Any time now.
Raining here still, thankfully. I prefer this!
The two rain-o-rama’s currently modeled for this week will make snow lovers furious.
Really? At this point I don’t give 2 bleeps! 🙂
Seriously.
I have accepted the fact that It ain’t gonna SNOW!!! 🙂
But you’ll get your snow events this winter. The pattern transition is not sudden, but unsteady and gradual. 🙂
And ark builders wealthy 🙂
I laughed too hard at this. Plus it’s Sunday, how fitting a comment!
Logan popped back up to 36. So much for that.
On the other hand, it is down to 34 here. 🙂
Snow intensity is picking up some and it doesn’t look so wet out.
It actually looks more Wintry out.
Thanks TK.
No big surprises that I can tell. Think there was some modest over-performance in some mid-Atlantic inland areas, and while I didn’t expect much for coastal areas in round 1, the marine layer was even tougher than I would’ve thought especially in terms of inland extent. Seemed like the wind speeds may have been a little stronger than forecast and drove that layer further inland?
It’s also worth noting that the overall evolution of this storm is quite different than most of the modeling showed 4-6 days ago. And if I remember correctly, TK was all over the idea of a longer duration, more strung out storm system. Well done sir. Seemed like the GFS, while not perfect, was the first of the global models to at least start picking up on that type of evolution.
Church was zoom…although I always attend remotely….so jusr catching up
Thank you, TK.
Back to 30 here but I was not expecting much of a difference till after the noon hour. It has been consistent snow here ..at least since I woke up at 8:00…with modest accumulation.
Sure is beautiful
The ability to attend church remotely is one of the best things to come out of the pandemic.
JPD. Re your post above on marine layer.
I shared Pete’s tweet a few times here in the past couple of days that ROUGHLY as I understood it was saying ocean temps/marine layer can’t be interpreted as it once was. I wondered if that was why his maps were a bit different than some.
Just a curious thought
Snowing here in Foxboro
Eh, if that’s what u call it. VERY wet non accumulating snow.
I’m still sticking with it . Boston will not see a plowable event & the same south of Boston . Storm is over in about 5-6 hours . It’s the flash freeze that Boston / south should be preparing for as salters need to be out all night tonight staying on top of this .
We added an inch in sutton since my morning 5 inch measurement
34 at Logan. 34 here, but it has been dropping.
Wind more NNE at Logan and so it begins…..
SNOWING HEAVILY here in JP now!
We’re going to start accumulating now
11” now and still coming down. Radar looks pretty good to maybe make a run at over a foot?
Nice
Been snowing moderate to heavily in Swampscott for a few hours and temps starting to drop.
Nothing, niets, nada, niks, rien, nichts … Light mix falling out of the sky for the past 5 hours. No accumulation whatsoever. Well, that’s obvious given that the temperature really hasn’t budged much, oscillating in the 33.6F to 35.2F range. Right now it’s smack dab in the middle at 34.6F. This will definitely not be plowable as SSK pointed out. It may not even accumulate to the 1.4 inch I mentioned very early this morning.
I’m very happy for the folks like Retrac, Mark, Vicki and others who have had a nice snowstorm.
Here, the snow that’s falling from the sky, well, it’s an insult to snow to call what’s falling `snow’ as it almost immediately melts. Certainly on pavements and sidewalks, but even trees and grass. It’s there one second only to vanish the next, like wet snow does … in April.
Snow coming down hard now.
No snow in New York as my neighbor just sent a photo from Maddison square park
NY got 0.2 inches from this storm.
Would these snowfalls be considered plowable?
https://ibb.co/pnNzkZx
https://ibb.co/Z8Td0mb
Close but not quite there.
Now here we have plows working in tandem.
Snow rain mix here in Hingham. (Been using mPing to update my area for the radars that use it). The snow looks heavy in volume but the rain is definitely in the mix.
SClarke, love those pictures you sent of plowable snow. I believe these were taken in Northern Japan (Hokkaido) at some point.
Good luck to those plows!
Fairly cold right now across Britain and the low countries. But as the Dutch mets suggested a week to 10 days ago, not only is this particular cold modest it’s of relatively short duration. Perhaps a 3 or 4 day stretch of a northeasterly (for them that’s a continental wind), low to mid 30s daytime/mid to upper 20s night. This will be followed by the usual southwesterly off the sea and ocean, cloudy, rainy at times and windy at times (low 40s daytime/low to mid 30s night).
REALLY SNOWING HARD here in JP
STREET is covered.
Accumulating.
Nice that you got into a good snow band.
It’s gonna a have to snow a lot harder than this to play catch up
34 at the airport with NNE wind
33 here and slowly falling,
33.6F here. Falling, but definitely not crashing. Large snowflakes, to be sure. You do see some white/gray on trees, but this goes away once the snow intensity lets up. Nothing on pavement or sidewalks.
That part is just getting underway. The temp just went down 8 degrees here in the last 1/2 hour.
Been snowing steadily here for hours and I think I have another 3-4 hours to go.
Looks miserable at Gillette. Seats were selling for $20 today.
Couldn’t pay me enough to be there. Bill’s last game is the only intrigue. It’s gonna be a horrible game (3 and out, punt – rinse and repeat for both teams)
I’ll still be surprised if the Patriots part ways with Bill.
I’d love to be at that game. My view of sports is entirely different than the average person, and I couldn’t be happier about it. 😉
My view of sports is also. But my view of fairness tends to override it in this case.
That said a good manager knows when to step aside when he is failing. I know one that did 😉
Part 2 is right on schedule and right on track. South Shore, you guys are in trouble when the temp drops. I hope the DPW’s in the area are ready for what’s coming. A freeze up with snow on top of it. Oh boy.
There’s still the slightest whiff of rain with the snow. I’m heading out in about 15min for a hospital visit, hope by the time we’re done visiting the driving isn’t intolerable.
Snowing hard now, down to 33.1F. Trying to stick to brick sidewalk. Some slush on cars. Whitish/gray film on trees and bushes. Some snow on grass.
Your snow event is underway. 3-5 inches coming up.
I hope so. I hope I’m wrong.
This is an easy forecast IMO at this point. Leading into it, it was not. Once it was underway, it became more simple. It’s why I didn’t make any real changes. 🙂
Large flakes and many of them, but still some rain mixing in.
Treacherous conditions tonight with the freeze-up, as TK mentioned. It’s not so much the amount of snow but the snow on top of ice. This evening could see worse conditions here than in places where it snowed the entire time.
Mixing in Kingston.
Saw plows salting the roads. I just did the same on steps leading down to our building’s back entrance and in front (steps and sidewalk).
Down to 32.4F. Nice drop there in the past 15 minutes.
Still a “whiff of rain” mixed with snow, however, as Dr S mentioned.
We have what feels like rain mixing in
Your area is close to a mix line that is related to the actual low and a little warmer air above, but that will be short-lived. Temp drop imminent. 🙂
I saw that on radar. It is hard to tell. It is hard to tell but think it changed back.
It’s dumping here now. Definitely plowable. The roads are covered very quickly.
No whiff of rain here
Sticking to grass, bushes, trees, cars and even a bit on side streets. No more play-by-play as I have to get to work. But it’s fun to see the gradual evolution.
Thanks, TK. Has been a light snow falling here in Sudbury since early this morning yet it still has been accumulating. Marc usually goes out to take snow measurements but w/his condition I went out. Couldn’t get too far as the sidewalks here are still piled up w/snow. And w/more snow on the way, I just came back in. Just an estimation that it might be 8 inches or snow. No wind. If I had better boots I would have ventured out more. The snow is a pretty sight. Sorry for those who didn’t get any but I guess there is some on the way for you. Also sorry for those who could get a freeze-up.
When I finished shoveling the wetter snow of part 1, we’ve had 6.0 inches so far here at Woburn. I suspect another 3 or so from part 2, which got underway while I was finishing up, just in time too as the temp went down about 8 degrees in several minutes!
Oldest is driving her oldest to the barn in sutton. They are riding bareback in the snow. Driving bad. They just drove by a car in a stone wall. Ask me if my BP is a bit elevated
Thanks TK !
I can see Salem, MA down to 28F as is the rte 128 belt.
So glad to see Boston and Jamaica Plain area doing well now.
Need another hour + down here, especially this far east in Marshfield.
No longer an April snow. More like a winter snow now. Smaller flakes, no more rain mixed in. Temp still above freezing, but it’s been dropping. Snow sticking to side roads, looking less gray and more white on trees and bushes.
Yay ! Enjoy !!!!
Must have been a temp drop in Foxboro because the field suddenly turned white.
10 mins ago, you could see the turf very clearly.
Yes, much heavier snow here now and temp down to 29, 10 mins south of the Stadium.
Enjoy !
Had the chance to go late this morning but wasn’t feeling great today, so opted to stay home.
Snowing very hard in Essex. Temp has been stuck at 32 all day . Wind is picking up . About 4 inches so far .
Your temp should be about 6 to 8 degrees lower within the hour. 🙂
36 in pembroke
2;30 my friend, I believe for Pembroke to drop near 32F and maybe 3 or 3:30 out my way.
The temp drop is taking place from north to south. You’re to the south, so it’s not there yet.
The trees are awfully heavy here. We had part of one snap at the top of the hill behind our house
Good luck with power Vicki, unless you want it to go out for a little bit 🙂 🙂 🙂
On that ob link SAK posted a while back, only Logan is showing above 32f near the city.
Right by the city itself, I see a 29F and a 28Fas of 1:45 pm
Cold air is filtering in now. A few spots around buildings and near the water will be last to get “cold”.
https://radar.weather.gov/station/KBOX/standard
Logan drops to 30F. 🙂
I’m stuck at 32-33 F. Really snowing. Wind has picked up.
As Tom mentioned, field at Gillette is coated. Score is 6-3 Jets. Might sound like the Boring Bowl, but kinda fun watching this one given the weather.
I love games like this. As I said, my view of this stuff is far different than the majority. 🙂
It almost temps me to watch. There is no game imo better than the pats snow game. Was that 2001?
Just looked that up, Vicki…
January 19, 2002
Nearly 22 years ago! Yikes!
Rain filtered with light snow here in hingham. Salt trucks came by though.
To be followed closely by the pepper trucks? 🙂
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
The temperature profile on the Mt Washington auto road is interesting:
https://xmountwashington.appspot.com/csc.html
Thank goodness this backside/comma head is doing what it looked like it could. Maybe even a bit better.
I would have been so discouraged if it didn’t pan out.
And I know that the first part did what it should have done and I just created a wrong prediction it wasn’t meant to be able to produce because I got the ocean’s impact so wrong for part 1
Boston as of 1pm has 0.1 inches so far. Boston goes back in the lead over NY in the snowfall standings. The question now by how much???
While we’re in the midst of the storm here and watching punting and field goal practice in Foxboro, a comment about the weather after the event…
I’m going to look in more detail at the upcoming system for later Tuesday into Wednesday. I’m slightly encouraged by a few things I see today in terms of the severity and wind damage / flooding potential.
As for the threat next weekend, I think right now a misfire on the models regrading the next system is perpetuating to the system behind that. Expect that to evolve to a colder more southern tracking storm.
We don’t need a lot of rain on top of this snow pack.
I hoping for that colder solution next weekend.
I hope that encouragement continues, as most of that storm
looks to happen in the overnight.
I haven’t measured yet but I think we got enough snow in N. Pepperell!
https://ibb.co/RgmCxZw
I’ve gone down 3 degrees in a matter of like 10 minutes or so.
My granddaughter riding her pony in the snow. If you allow sound , you can hear the wind. It’s only a few miles from my house but wind is nowhere as strong here
https://imgur.com/a/vcqtJRl
I got that thing at the start asking if I am over 18. I just said I was. I promise ….nothing questionable here Weird
Great Video! And I admit to being over 18.
She is EXTREMELY lucky to own a pony. Every little girl’s dream. 🙂
Thank you. My daughter had ponies and horses growing up. Too expensive now. She leases the pony but it’s hers to ride and play with.
Hahahaha. Me too. Thank you. I have no idea why Imgur does that
Cool.
❤️
I am now down 6 degrees in 20 minutes.
Is the MLK weekend event still in play?
See today’s blog post (and my comment just above).
Doh!! I keep forgetting to actually “read” your blog post. 😉
BUT…will temps be cold enough??
Remains to be seen, but I’m leaning toward a cold scenario.
Near blizzard conditions here at Gillette. This is nuts.
And down to around 26 too. Not too much longer though it seems.
Welcome to the comma head portion of the storm. 🙂
Nice that we get these once in a while!
A friend in Lunenburg May well have 18 when all is said and done
I know somebody in that area that is reporting 18, or nearly so. I’ll try to verify. That area spent some time under a synoptic band overnight and got a pretty jacked up amount to start with.
Thank you! Hes a retired HS math teacher. We know how exact they are ❤️❤️. I mention your comment to him.
Spotter in Dunstable is reporting 17.5. It fits. This is one of those “exceptions” (high and low) noted when I made my accumulation forecast. One of my colleagues made fun of me for doing this, but there’s a reason as you see. 🙂
loojs like a snow storm
Final total 8 inches.
Thanks for report!
Forecast spot on for my area calling for 5-10 inches. Just missed out on the big snow band around midnight some towns in the northwest hills got double digit snowfall amounts.
We are closing in on that 9 I predicted. Wonder why I picked 9 😀
Should have just enough to get there.
Under 2 hours to go.
Ugh. We may go over it. We were at 8.5 last I measured. But then 11 works too
It’s ending quickly. You may end up in the 9 zone after all.
26 here. still snowi with some blowing snow.
Just measured a little over 10” in Andover after a quick 3 inches in the last hour or two. I’m sure it has subsided some as well. Pretty good forecast!
Here in far eastern marshfield, it’s 36F at the very nearby airport. I can see on SAK’s ob link it’s colder now just a couple miles to our west.
There’s wet snow in the air but nothing sticking.
I have to get my daughter from work in 45 mins, 2 miles west and I think I’ll drive into a different world.
But still not here yet.
Very pretty outside. Haven’t measured but from looking at it perhaps 2 inches. No longer snowing much. Temp is down to 28.4F.
Quick drop in temp to 24F but snow has pretty much stopped. Measured a little less than 2 inches, wet snow with a glaze on it.
This location does give back in the coldest storms and since we’re prone to wind, it’s usually close to a continuous blizzard.
But, in exchange for that, we struggle on these.
As far as my neighborhood Tom it’s sticking . Need to pick up my son from work at 5 up by Lowe’s I’ll have a better update at that time but to little to late the storm is winding down soon
Safe travels when you head out !!
I have to go to the Cask, a mile or 2 east of Lowe’s.
Yup , know it well
For the sake of nostalgia, for fans of WeatherScan (TWC’s nonstop local forecast channel that ran for several years), here’s a playlist of most of the songs that ran on it (without the voiceovers). This is a very nice 1 hour and 35 minute musical vacation if you like instrumental tunes and that classic feel of TWC. There are 27 tracks (even though it goes up to track 33). I left out 5 tracks from one particular artist because I hope to share his complete collection here soon as well.
Thanks !
Just took what’s looking like final measurement. 13.5″.
https://imgur.com/a/RcPhc6k
Thanks!
Nice retrac !
TK …..
For mid week, are some of the signs for hope on the wind front the bagginess in the isobars and the relatively cooler temps (not low 60s) and of course the refrigerant snow cover.
I see those helping in lower elevations inland, will they help the immediate coastline ? Thanks !
1st link for bagginess in isobars
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=sfcwind_mslp&rh=2024010712&fh=66&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
2nd link for temps (40s and low 50s, not 60s of 2+ weeks ago)
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=sfct-imp&rh=2024010712&fh=66&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
Sometimes the snowcover will help create an atmosphere where the strongest winds will be up a bit higher and not right down at the ground. That may cover us for part of the storm where there is snow on the ground.
Also, duration may be relatively short, which will help somewhat.
And this is less certain, but oftentimes the guidance is over-forecasting the strength at this range. So we can hope that’s a factor.
Thanks TK !
There was some discussion of Lunenburg above. I can believe that we are at 18″, but there’s so much drifting that it’s hard for me to tell.
The latest NWS report is 15″ about two hours ago. We’ve had more since then, but now it’s winding down. Something like 18″ seems right.
looks like it is winding doen here…
About 3 inches total.
Big woof.
Indeed it’s wrapping up . Snowing here but very minor .
Got the 9 I was looking for. On the nose. 5 first 4 second
https://imgur.com/a/OvMiKUm
That is awesome!!
Thank you!
Snowing more moderately now. Winding down. Temp at 25 … started day at 33.
Salter just went through the neighborhood by the house as that’s all they will need here . Next let’s see if storm # 2 delivers the wind & rain
Zappe does not know when NOT to throw the ball. his decisions have been atrocious!
Well they’ll have a top pick in the draft and maybe they’ll take a new QB.
He’s bad. Jones is terrible. Not even sure either guy makes it to anyone’s practice squad, let alone team (even as a back-up to a back-up).
Zappe was never going to be as good as Jones. But then I wouldn’t be surprised if BB got in his head too. I respectfully disagree that Jones is bad. He had an excellent rookie year. His stats are easy to find. BB destroyed him. The reasons are here (scroll down to where they are listed). I was complaining on here about them as they happened. I don’t complain quietly, especially when something is so egregious, so would be surprised if folks don’t remember.
https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2023/11/12/bedard-mac-jones-is-broken-and-bill-belichick-is-to-blame
A head coaches job is to bring rookies along. Not to use them as blame for their mistakes. Check Bbs record without Brady
Only thing `pretty’ about Foxboro today is the snow.
While I’ve been critical of BB, I do feel sad when an era is over. And I fully expect the BB era to be over here in New England. There’s a lot of fixing to do. Houston Texans did prove that it can be done relatively quickly, though the Texans in 2022 were better talent-wise than the Patriots in 2023. We shall see.
It’s not 100% he’s gone !! Meeting is tomorrow. I do think Kraft puts options on the table if Bill wants to stay , but will he accept those options. One option is definitely removing him as GM as I think this is a definite.
I’m in western Marshfield.
Moderate snow and they’ll get to an inch, maybe 1.5 inches.
The roads are greasy, it looks like a winter wonderland.
Where I live, there’s a couple golf courses that side of town and I think you can play tomorrow if you like winter golf. 🙂
Boston with 1.9 inches so far with this storm is up to 2.1 inches for the season.
Thanks Jimmy. It sure took forever for the coastal front to come through.
Changed fast, we have a quick dusting and have maybe 5 mins of heavy stuff and whatever light stuff lingers. Maybe can secure a coating to 1 inch here by the ocean.
And just like Belichicks career with the Pats, this storm is a wrap.
What did you end up with ? Thanks.
Around 4” but it’s hard to tell
I was hoping for the higher draft pick so I’m ok with today’s loss.
I’m a bit bummed the Jaguars lost, that’s a good young team but evidently, not good enough today.
Good luck to the Cowboys JJ.
I think Lions won, so Cowboys have to win.
Thanks Tom. Cowboys beat the Commanders they are the two seed. Lions are the three seed unless the Cowboys lose than they would move to the two seed.
I just cleaned up. I measured a paltry 2.75 inches and that is it.
If you allow for some melting earlier perhaps we can call it an
even 3 inches. But that is it.
I could rant. but I’ll leave it at that.
When’s the next snow chance? Like the 6th Friday in March?
7th and you can take that to the bank…..maybe 😉
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
I’d say a good 15 inches in Amesbury and it’s still coming down. Way over performed my expectations.
I do find that interesting.
You are very close to the coast.
Yes, north, but not even to NH
The coastal front and airmass, on an east wind ….. I just feel like when we’ve seen this east wind before, the coastal front usually gets Amesbury and the NH coastline and even southern Maine for a bit.
But it didn’t on this system.
Wow. Impressive. I’m not sure where amesbury is relative to cape Ann area. Did you get in on some of that ocean effect snow last night?
Yes, snowed fairly heavily last night. Amesbury is most northern community in Massachusetts, but is a short, 15-minute ride to Salisbury beach and the ocean.
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2otlk_1730.gif
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2probotlk_1730_torn.gif
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day2probotlk_1730_wind.gif
These are valid 12z Monday into 12z Tuesday morning.
I believe that up until today, the Patriots were undefeated in “snow” games. Is that correct?
I fondly remember that 1982 plow game vs. Miami when the released prisoner Mark Henderson cleared the field for the Patriots game winning field goal. Don Shula was absolutely livid if I recall. Did the Patriots actually make the playoffs that season, albeit just barely? Or was it a meaningless game? I forget.
If I am not mistaken, that plow (or a replica) is/was on display at the Patriots HOF.
Greetings from Scottsdale, AZ. It’s 45 degrees and there is a thunderstorm passing just to my north. Any interesting weather back home today? 😉
We’re flying home this evening (flight is on time), landing at 5am tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing how white everything is.
Oh, and Lowell broke out of their -long slump to thump Harvard 7-4 yesterday.
Yay, Lowell !
Yay Lowell! Glad the slump is over.
I’m sure you’ll check out the snow reports. I’m about to add my Woburn one to the mix. The storm worked out pretty much as expected (a couple lowers and highers than expected here and there, but that’s pretty much the case with every event).
Everything will still be plenty white / icy tomorrow. Enjoy it while you can. It gets wiped out Wednesday morning.
Safe travels!
I think wankum was awesome all week saying from the get go he felt rain was going to be involved.
I was following the games online. It seemed like the first one could have gone either way with the loss in OT. The second one was a good thing – a little odd that two teams from the same neighborhood were playing each other in AZ though!
Hi SAK, I did see a lot of planes being diverted to JFK and Philly around 2-3 after circling for a while but 5am tomorrow you’ll be fine. Safe travels home.
I’m not really in the practice of critiquing colleague forecasts anymore, but I will say that the Boston media in general did an awesome job forecasting this one. There were a lot of moving parts. Yeah somebody may have been a little high here or a little low there, but that’s forecasting. I should have left my original idea for Logan untouched, and then I bumped it up a tad last minute yesterday. Ah well! I haven’t verified everything but there were definitely some higher than top range amounts to the N of Boston, and some lower than low range to the S of Boston. In meteorology in general it’s very difficult to nail storms that have such a huge range over a relatively small area. Much easier to forecast those broad brush 3-6 / 6-12 type storms that just dump snow everywhere in broad coverage. 🙂
https://radar.weather.gov/station/KBOX/standard
In a little lobe of steady, light. snow
It’s pushed us close to an inch.
It looks like winter now.
If anybody wants to look in on N Conway (one of my favorite places that I hardly ever have seen in person haha), here…
My little feet walked those sidewalks from just about the time I could walk. So many sweet memories
My brothers sister in law who has become a very close friend is there visiting her son and family. They skied attitash today. She said about four inches.
Keith shared the web cam with me years ago. I visit it any time I need a bit of those memories to cheer me.
And I’m not crying. Who said I was !!!
There’s a little backlash coming down from the N that might add another tenth or half inch to a few places. I’m going to wait til that goes thru here before I send in my reports to NWS.
JP Dave, I have less than you, a little under 2 inches. But I must admit it looked pretty. I know it’ll be gone very soon. But at least it looked like winter.
This guy’s pretty good. I believe he’s Scottish, but he could be Irish. In any case, I like his global analyses/forecasts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_uVhGEplVQ
Tuesday & Saturday both rain producers
Amateur measurement here, but would 17-18 inches be realistic in Amesbury? That’s what I got.
Random sports post here. The Celtics played the Pacers last night in Indiana and they play there again tomorrow night? I can’t remember that happening before or have I just not noticed…much more common in baseball of course but I was going over upcoming games with my 97 yo mom (who loves sports) and that struck me. Am I missing something (or have I missed something)…. Thanks for confirming or clarifying….
It’s a new thing the NBA started doing last year.
It is strange for sure but there were ones like that a couple of times last year. I had to look twice when I saw it too.
To try to reduce travel and also fans like the in season mini series.
Hmm, Boston may have a shot to get to 4 yet … Let’s see what that back lash does.
Total Posts.
Over the last 3 days, we surpassed 1,000 total posts on WHW. Not sure if this is the record for a 3 day period. We can think of other timeframes where this could have possibly happened such as the winter, 2015 and others too.
I did count backwards and discovered the 1,000th post belongs to JpDave at 2:55 PM today.
Nice work! JP Dave kind of deserves the 1K Award since SNOW has been a hot topic – or a cold one? 😉
He does 🙂
https://ibb.co/MCmKBkq
Credit to Dr Stupid from a post late Friday. That’s the one I could find.
Anyway, I am sort of interested that Amesbury, coastal NH and south coastal Maine were areas that got clobbered, the marine layer did not impact them as greatly.
From what I can see, some predictions got this and a couple did not. There’s 2 that also forecast lower amts compared to inland locations in Amesbury and cape Ann and coastal NH and south coastal Maine.
Their first boost came from an intense synoptic band late last night. So they got ahead of everyone else N & W of the city. Marine influence never got in there.
Now they’re adding to it with the backlash.
Thanks TK !
Yes, keeping an eye on that next lobe.
Bottom left and top right got the coastal front impact for sure around Boston points south and east, but they also thought the coastal front’s impact would continue further up the coast, which I think was a good thought. But it cut off not tremendously far north and east of Boston.
From the tv media, I agree with what you said before TK, they all did great !
The superlatives from the TV media, if I had a vote off of Dr Stupid’s post just above, would be the upper left and middle right.
They included cape Ann, extreme northeast mass, coastal NH and Maine in the heavy band and also nicely got the marine influence in eastern Mass.
Sutton schools have a 2 hour delay tomorrow. A few other towns also.
Same in Woburn. No we didn’t get buried, but we have a short staffed crew and lack of contractors for plowing. The guys are tired and need a break before finishing the cleanup. Plus some icing underneath where it had been a wetter snow first.
The 2 hour delay is ideal to allow the extra time and still not use an entire snow day. 🙂
Makes sense, many town are short staffed.
I absolutely agree
We’re in Tempe again, killing a little more time before we head to the airport and we just got pelted with graupel during a thunderstorm. In Arizona. Looks like I didn’t escape the frozen precipitation after all.
haha!
Extreme Graupel Warning In Effect! Take video immediately!
Flakes have been falling here for the last hour.
Thank you TK! We had just enough here to make it pretty but not cause many problems. That works for me. 🙂
It did look nice
I’m watching this plow guy keep passing my house in my neighborhood plowing ( he is plowing cement) as an experienced snow person I’m scratching my head on that .
Plenty to have plowed around here. I measured 3.3 inches. Plow came down our private road and all the streets needed plowing.
Jeez SSK you are so much fun for folks that like winter. Yes, next storm is rain and the next one as TK says should trend colder. No reason to be a downer. We know you don’t like snow and winter. Wankum was right but he’s the one who shared every model run which I just wouldn’t do.
We are all friends and I want to put this to bed, please be sensitive to others. Life is hard for a lot of people and the constant negativity just isn’t fun. Just my 2 cents.
If you don’t like my posts don’t comment Hadi . I get along & respect everyone on this blog including you & I am always respectful to everyone.
Just be sensitive to how people want to enjoy winter. You aren’t rude, but trust me it aggravates a lot of people, I know. No reason to just come every time and say rain and sound excited and happy about it. Maybe others don’t care, but it takes away a lot of the fun.
You are a piece of work dude . Don’t reply to any of my posts again . And I removed you from my Facebook !!! You have some nerve telling me what to do !!
Sorry you feel the way. No problem on Facebook, not as if we interacted there so removing me not sure what that does 🙂
Had we just stayed lightly colder on the 1st half we would have ended up way higher than forecasted. We would have been in the 12-18 range as well if not more. 1-2 degrees was all the difference.
Yeah, you would have had what is even northeast of you.
I know we can all recall east wind for a time in a winter storm, where the coastal front moves inland much further up the coast than it did.
Maybe the easterly storm track, I don’t know.
https://radar.weather.gov/station/KBOX/standard
Nice burst again. Bigger flakes and much drier snow.
Probably taken eastern marshfield to around 1.25-1.5 inches. Even up to 4pm, I thought, no chance of this much.
Another 1/2 inch for the South Shore from that final band. Snowing nicely down there now. Will taper off soon.
Your right . I got in around 7 as we got maybe an inch or maybe just over & wanted to remove it & salt . I think I have plenty of salt down
Needed. It goes down another 5-10 degrees tonight from here.
I put 100 pounds down lol
haha nice job!
Well, I wonder what the 00z suite will bring with respect to the next system and that matter, the following one.
It got lost in the shuffle above, but the SPC has a 10% tornado contour along a part of the gulf coast.
I’m curious. I don’t think it’ll do much different with the next system yet. I’m curious if it pops the thing a little further SE (still west of here, but enough to push some snow in at the start of the next system before the rain/wind).
We will probably see a slower trend to colder for the system next weekend. At least based on how I think things play out at this point.
Thanks.
I might be seeing the 00z stuff in the morning though.
I didn’t sleep too well last night.
Partly excited by a winter storm and partly frustrated listening to the rain 🙂 🙂 🙂
If I’m reading Eric fisher’s recent tweet correctly, Logan is up to 3.1 inches for the event.
I think that’s correct, but I’ll try to verify.
It’s hard to understand
https://x.com/ericfisher/status/1744173588607910051?s=61
Yeah, a bit Vicki.
So then I saw what was in the box/graphic and saw that 3.1 under Sunday
Hadi, one last burst per radar looks like it’s over your area.
https://radar.weather.gov/station/KBOX/standard
Sure was, added another inch
Eric just tweeted out a 1st thought wind map for the next storm.
I mentioned earlier about family of a friend skiing attitash today. I was wrong. They skied black. Apparently a group came together and saved it from closing. At least for now
11 inches in North Readimg…not too shabby….I think that exceeded last year’s total, so this Winter is already a win in my book
Pete on tues to wed
https://x.com/petenbcboston/status/1744185377550643229?s=61
Light snow has been falling periodically, almost like a Christmas card, probably added another 0.5 inch or so. My best guess is that I got a total of 2.5 or perhaps 3 inches from the entire event. Better than the 1.4 inch I was thinking this morning.
Do love that refrigeration feel when you go outside after a snowfall. It’s not that cold out. Perhaps 23F. But with the snow around you kind of feel like you’re in a freezer. I love that. The very best is when after a big storm you walk down, say, Beacon Street and on both sides there are snowbanks 4 or 5 feet high. Then you really have the full freezer effect.
My children think I’m totally nuts, by the way.
The love of winter not being passed on to them, despite my valiant efforts.
The same cannot be said for it being passed on to me from my Dad and especially my Mom. Among a few pieces I inherited from my mother was a sign she had that says “Snowbound.” I put it above the entrance to my apartment. My mother loved the cold and snow. Every time I see the wooden sign I think of my Mom. She and I got giddy with excitement in winter.
Awwww that is so awesome. What a sweet memory.
I got it from my dad. Today was my mom’s angel day and all I kept thinking was she would not like this. Our girls are not winter fans. Mac was not really either. Our son loves all weather
Just measured an additional 2” on the deck since this morning so 8” is our total here.
The drive to Foxborough earlier was a bit harrowing as I84, I90, and I495 were snow covered through Union CT, Sturbridge, Worcester and Milford. It was absolutely beautiful in those same areas though as the trees were thickly coated in heavy wet snow to the point that some of the tree branches were sagging all the way to the ground. It was a winter wonderland. By the time we got further south though towards Wrentham, roads improved and there was probably only an inch on the ground.
More than made up for that during the game though as conditions were blizzard like at times. Probably picked up 3” at the stadium while we were there. It was fun being there in the snow despite it being a pretty shitty football game.
Glad your trip was safe. Conditions at Gillette sound fun.
Sounds as if you and I were in same ballpark for totals
I thought of you when I posted comment about black mtn earlier
Snow totals from NWS:
https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=BOX&product=PNS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1&highlight=off
Very impressive totals across all of northern MA where 15-18” fell!
Thank you, Mark
Not to skip the next one, the GFS lost it for next Fri and Sat
963 mb with an 80 mb difference with a 1048 mb high entering Montana.
Windy everywhere east of the Rockies.
With what we’ve seen the last many years, nothing would surprise me.
This idea of a pressure difference is noticeable for the next event cause there’s a 1,030 mb high not too far east of us. What a signal for wind in the gulf of Maine even more than us.
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2024010800&fh=132
Next Fri/sat
About just pass our highest wind Wed morning, look at the gulf of Maine wind signal.
What a storm surge that could be.
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=sfcwind_mslp&rh=2024010800&fh=60&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=
Total Seasonal Snowfall to date:
ORH = 18.5”
BOS = 3.3”
NYC = 0.2”
Can Boston nibble away at Worcester’s lead or more likely at “arm’s length” at best?
All it would take is one of those good cold storms passing to our east far enough. But there’s such a long way to go in the snow season the odds don’t favor it to finish any way other than with Worcester ahead of Boston.
We saw a lot of these outlooks from the weather prediction center this past summer. This is for our next storm system.
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/ero.php?opt=curr&day=2
New weather post…