Cold Air Returns

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7:55PM

The big wind event along with some heavy rain from Thursday morning is now behind us. Lingering gusty winds from the west across southeastern New England are now relaxing. A secondary boundary will send another punch of cold air into the region on Friday which will then linger through the weekend. Some lake effect snow bands all the way from the Great Lakes will attempt to cross the Berkshires but for the most part will dry up through Friday. A few may survive the trip as light snow showers into southern NH or the western and northern suburbs of Boston. A disturbance will also pass just south of New England on Friday but far enough offshore to keep any snow over the ocean. The next disturbance will make a run at the area during the second half of the weekend with some threat for snow from late Saturday night through Sunday. I’m not quite sure how this will play out yet as the development and track of low pressure are somewhat in question. Some parts of the region may see a light to possibly moderate snowfall with odds favoring eastern MA and southeastern NH. Once the low does form and move away it will drag down more cold air for Monday, and another disturbance Tuesday should ride further south and east, keeping its snow offshore. We may set up a northeasterly flow, however, around Wednesday, and with lingering low pressure troughing to the south, at least clouds and possibly some light snow may develop across the region. This is a bit far away at day 6, so we’ll see if this pans out or high pressure ends up stronger and fair weather dominates.

Forecast for southeastern New England…

TONIGHT: Mostly clear to partly cloudy. A few stray snow showers may reach the western suburbs of Boston and southern NH. Lows 22-27. Wind W diminishing to 5-15 MPH.

FRIDAY: Partly cloudy. Again a risk of a few stray snow showers from southern NH to the suburbs of Boston. Highs 33-38. Wind W shifting to NW increasing to 10-20 MPH with higher gusts.

FRIDAY NIGHT: Mostly clear. Lows 13-18. Wind NW 10-20 MPH. Wind chill below 10 at times.

SATURDAY: Mostly sunny. Highs 28-33. Wind NW 10-15 MPH.

SATURDAY NIGHT: Increasing clouds. Chance of snow toward morning. Lows 18-23. Wind N 5-15 MPH.

SUNDAY: Mostly cloudy. Chance of snow. Highs 28-33. Wind variable 10-15 MPH.

MONDAY: Partly cloudy. Low 11. High 30.

TUESDAY: Partly sunny. Low 13. High 33.

WEDNESDAY: Mostly cloudy. Chance of snow showers. Low 18. High 34.

THURSDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 16. High 33.

356 thoughts on “Cold Air Returns”

  1. Thanks TK !

    I dont think I can convey how happy I am that January ends tonight. At Boston’s latitude, there’s 10 hrs of sunlight starting tomorrow. 4 weeks from tomorrow is March 1st…….. during February, there will be a nearly 10 degree increase of the solar angle, baseball’s spring training begins, there’s a lot more light by month’s end at both ends of the day and yet, lots of snow and cold are still very possible. Everyone’s weather wishes have a chance to be met this month.

    1. Exactly 4 weeks in the month of February yet SO much can happen in the weather department. I still have a feeling that these little systems and threats we are seeing are foreshocks of something much more significant that awaits us this very snow season.

      1. I agree. We get a big one before its over. There is a chance though that Sundays could be the biggest so far, certain areas.

      2. With all these northern stream systems the next few days, too bad the Atlantic cant be a bit more blocked up …….

    2. Thanks tk. Just curious on why the mets seem to think Sunday afternoon but you earlier. Six inches may be a common number. Wow three quick goals.

      2. My reason is this: I think the models are underforecasting a lead trough at 500mb which is also over some lower level moisture and a small boundary coming down with just enough convergence for lift that might kick off an area of light snow before dawn on Sunday for at least part of the region. This reasoning may be completely out to lunch but I can’t count it out.

        1. Thanks. Any chance we may get off the hook with this storm. I’m not thinking that. Sure would like to be home watching the game and not doing snow removal.

    1. Wait a minute 🙂 LOL !!!! I was thinking a 60F day with sunshine would be nice during the vacation. Compromise……sunny, warm day early in the break, followed by a strong cold front that is followed by a big snowstorm.

      1. Ok or start the vacation with a President’s Day blizzard and end it with a sunny mild weekend with temps around 60. I have to work that week except for Monday.

  3. I have kept saying that atleast one of these storms blows up. Not giving in!! It will happen. I seem to recollect many of our big storms are in February 🙂

    Arod the reason I posted Grey’s write up is because they talk about how much further south the development is. Also if you look at the euro and GFS they all develope it even worse for southern Maine vs. downeast Maine. So I take their info as being better for us.

  6. Surprised by the amount and strength of the winds outside my house still…wild winds. Hoping it would have died down by now.

  7. Hey TK, we’ll keep that snow photo I posted our little secret. Shhhh…. 😀

    18Z Snow Map for Sunday event. Down East Maine and Maritimes would get clocked if this were to verify. One thing for certain, the GFS wants to develop this thing
    quickly and potently. I am almost ready to use the “B” word, yes as in Bombogenisis!
    😀

    Look at this thing nearest Us:

    http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2013013118&var=PCPPRSTMP_2m&hour=081

    Here is the snow map for it:

    http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013013118&time=48&var=ASNOWI&hour=090

    This comes a little closer and we’re in for it. This is REALLY close!!!

    2. I agree. As I said earlier I had a feeling. Look for the trend to continue and even more tomorrow. Big potential here. Although I would love to be wrong on this one but don’t think that will happen.

    4. No problem O.S.!

      Geez all I gotta do now is post a photo of myself and I’ll scare everyone away. 😉

  8. Those winds were strong last night and a lot of power outages here in CT. Close to 90,000 people lost power and a lot of towns with big trees down and property damage. Fortunatley I had none where I was and its going to be a chilly night for those that don’t have power.
    I am still thinking a level 1 snow event for Sunday. Waiting on the 0z runs.

    1. JJ this one is going to be close. It “may” still end up a 1, but not because it is
      a wimpy system, but rather most of energy/moisture just off shore. 😀

      Bears close watching for sure. 😀

  10. Old Salty I agree with you it bears watching. I think we see something from this but the question is how much. I could see this as eastern new england gets the most snow from this.

      2. Twilight zone music playing in background …….. we’ve been thrown this quiz before regarding the inverted trof. No snow.

  16. There were already hints on the models that the main low was never going to have a close pass or significant impact, and that any synoptic snow would be the result of some type of extension between the new low and its parent.

    The NAM does show the advance light snow late Saturday night from the convergence I mentioned above.

  17. Western ridge, eastern trof. Outside of the wild storm we just had, its been the persistent pattern the last 10 days to 2 weeks. However, I think it might be this simple, if the NAO doesnt come towards neutral or a bit negative, then the trof is going to be oriented in such a way, that everything misses south and east. Dry, dry, dry.

  18. Nam looks terrible but long range. Still no way to get excited unless the euro jumps aboard and GFS continues to show consistency. The pattern is what it is, just missing.

  19. I believe a change in the pattern comes somewhere between Feb 14th-18th when temps will be consistently average to just above average,, will c ,

  20. Whenever the suns out tommorrow it will feel warm, slowly getting to that time of year, sun angle is like mid Nov, goodnight 🙂

    1. Don’t focus too much on the closed surface low. There is a lot of troughing there, and don’t forget about the upper support.

      1. There are still a lot of ingredients there and it is only one run. TK do you think this has the most promise for a good snow so far this winter?

        1. Honestly, no I don’t. But I wouldn’t expect that it produces nothing either.

          Just as we get closer to it, it looks more and more like the ingredients don’t come together just right until it is beyond the region.

  22. 0Z GFS is quite a disappointment to say the least.

    What a Bleepity bleep bleep tease it has been. 😀

    Oh, well… Next up.

  23. what did i say when neww starting saying stuff on twitter and facebook the storm was going to go poof/ out to sea 😉 go figure

    1. i want a storm to sneak up with in a day so neww or us have no way in gods name earth of scaring it away 😛

    1. There is too much elongation of the NW side of the low and upper trough, slightly negatively tilted, to just toss that storm. It will snow here Sunday. Not a big storm, but it will snow.

      Watch for a minor event around Wednesday and still some potential for something more significant end of next week (Friday-Sunday period).

  25. It will snow but minimal, maybe 1-3 inches. We are locked in a pattern unless some changes it pretty soon.

  26. Will take what we could get this winter and it looks like a light event for Super Bowl Sunday. Don’t see this being anymore than a 1-3 or 2-4 inch event.

  27. DETAILS…

    SATURDAY NIGHT-SUNDAY…MODELS CONTINUE TO SIGNAL H5 SHORT WAVE
    DIGGING TO THE MID ATLC COAST WITH SURFACE LOW PRES DEVELOPS S OF
    THE REGION BY AROUND 12Z SUNDAY. AREA OF LIGHT SNOW WILL START TO
    SHIFT N INTO S COASTAL AREAS AROUND MIDNIGHT OR SO. LOOKS LIKE THE
    STEADIEST SNOW WILL FALL DURING SUNDAY-SUNDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW
    INTENSIFIES QUICKLY AS IT PASSES S OF THE 40N/70W BENCHMARK.

    CURRENT QPF FORECAST SUGGESTS ABOUT 0.25 TO 0.5 INCHES MAINLY ACROSS
    EASTERN AND S COASTAL AREAS…A LITTLE BIT LESS WELL INLAND. THE BIG
    QUESTIONS WILL BE WHETHER THIS MUCH QPF WILL SET UP AS THE LOW
    DEEPENS AND HOW QUICKLY THIS WILL HAPPEN. THE LOW IS PROGRESSIVE…
    SO WILL MOVE STEADILY TOWARD NOVA SCOTIA SUN NIGHT. FEEL THAT LOW
    LEVEL N-NE FLOW WILL PICK UP AS THE LOW BEGINS TO DEEPEN S OF THE
    REGION…WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR LOW LEVEL MOISTURE FROM THE OCEAN TO
    WORK IN ESPECIALLY SUNDAY INTO EARLY SUNDAY NIGHT. HAVE MENTIONED
    LIKELY-CATEGORICAL POPS…HIGHEST ON CAPE COD AND NANTUCKET.

    WITH THIS IN MIND…HAVE MENTIONED THE LOW PROBABILITY OF LIGHT
    SNOW ACCUMULATIONS…ON THE ORDER OF 2 TO 4 INCHES BEFORE THE PRECIP
    TAPERS OFF DURING SUNDAY NIGHT. NE WINDS WILL START TO FRESHEN…
    THEN BACK TO N AS THE LOW QUICKLY DEEPENS OVER THE GULF OF MAINE.
    THIS MAY THROW BACK SOME OCEAN EFFECT SNOWS AS COLDER AIR WORKS INTO
    THE CAPE AND NANTUCKET.

  29. Just some thoughts…..

    Dont know the accuracy…… but, according directly from the 2013 Farmers Almanac, next to the following dates, it says …..

    January 25th : “Hot drinks served on frozen Hudson River, N.J./N.Y.C., 1821”

    February 6th : “-10.3F, Boston, MA, 1855”

    I dont know, but it looks to me like winters arent like what they used to be.

  30. Thanks, TK.

    Happy February! Just about a month and a half until spring! I’m not tired of winter just yet, ‘though. Looking forward to 1 or 2 big snowstorms, which I still feel will come later on in the winter, as I think TK has mentioned.

  31. Good morning. What a great winter feeling morning. The air felt so nice when I let the dog out. JR has more snow (if you can call 1-2 snow) along the coast and about an inch inland.

    1. Hi Vicki,

      JR’s map actually showed 2-3 inches along the coast and up to an inch outside of 128. I think most areas come in under 2 inches.

  32. Looks like another “coat” storm yet again. Maximum amounts from a coating up to 3 inches along the coast line. As I mentioned yesterday, this is a storm for down east maine as the storm deepens over the gulf of maine. Down east Maine gets it this time but due to the storm being progressive, accumulations will even be held down up there although more than Boston.

    Tuesday’s storm appears OTC. Perhaps some ocean enhanced flurries at best. Doesn’t fair well. Patterns must be respected and as TK said, look for a cold/dry pattern to continue. Another lost winter. Ugh!

    1. I was hoping to see you here alisonarod — not sure what your field of expertise is but it seems to be vast. My daughter just headed to her OB/GYN. Baby is due April 18 and he’s was quiet yesterday and barely moving in the night but she says it’s how he moves and that he is so low that is making her nervous. It’s her second baby but as you know every pregnancy makes you worry. Is this fairly common at this point in a pregnancy??

      1. Vicki. Very common. Sounds as if she is roughly 24-26 weeks pregnant. Is that about right? Anyways, decreased fetal movement is always a concern especially if fetal movement becomes less and less and then no movement. However, there will be periods during the pregnancy in which the baby isn’t as active. As the pregnancy matures, the baby will become bigger and there will be less room for the baby to move. As long as she is feeling fetal movement, she should be okay. However, she should tell her Ob/Gyn physician and perhaps take an ultrasound just to be safe.

        1. Thank you very much – they did have her go in to monitor. As soon as they put the monitor/belt/whatever it is called on her the baby started to wiggle all over. My guess is she relaxed. She’s 28 weeks and dr said the heart rate was unusually strong for this period – yay!

          Thank you Alisonarod!!!!

  34. Here we go again.

    Here is the 06Z NAM “expected” snow fall map. Still a hint of an inverted trough, although not nearly as pronounced as the 0Z depicted. 😀

    http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013020106&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=078

    Here is the 06Z GFS “expected” snow fall map:

    http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013020106&time=48&var=ASNOWI&hour=078

    Here it is cranking off shore. 😀

    http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2013020106&var=PCPPRSTMP_2m&hour=066

    1. It cranks just a little too late. Yesterday the GFS was the outlier because it was too robust. I like today’s GFS much better than the NAM. Storm gets going to far to our east and our friends up in down east Maine enjoy it this time.

  35. Happy Feb, by the end of this month sun will be rising before 6:30am and sunset after 530pm, still thinking 1-3 inches on Sun, I thought maybe we would have some mixing issues but don’t think that will be a problem, it will be a nonevent north and west of 495 and north, have a great day!

  36. But if the groundhog doesn’t see his shadow tomorrow, we should expect HHH conditions by months end with trees in full bloom 😛

  37. I don’t mind feb as it can remind u frequently but also can give lots of hints that Spring us not that far away, have a great day everyone

  38. Hi Vicki,

    Here is your reminder to list all of our snowfall forecasts — ascending/descending order and the actual Logan total through January.

    Thanks in advance.

      2. I just checked 7news and there saying afternoon as well. 1-3 looks like the number. Glad the pats not playing as I’ll be missing the game.

  41. From Todd on twitter

    Todd Gutner ‏@ToddWBZ

    Snow potential for Sunday still looks pretty lame…while there is bigger potential…right now just a couple of inches for coast.

    1. Well that would be nice, BUT it is older than the Current 12Z NAM, so my guess is it WILL also change a bit later. Throw it out. 😀

  46. UGH…..I wasn’t online last night at all and was hoping I would come here today and find out we were actually going to have a decent snow event on Sunday. I guess staying away from the blog didn’t help at all. Oh well, maybe the next one.

  51. Here you go Longshot and total to date is 8.5 as Charlie (I think it was Charlie) said.

    MikeyMac 79.0
    John 76.5
    Coastal 62.0
    Old Salty 60.0
    Nick 56.8
    North 55.7
    tjammer 54.0
    Hadi 53.9
    Haterain 52.3
    Mark 50.3
    Cat966g 50.0
    Kirbet 48.0
    Retrac 46.0
    Scott 45.0
    Shreedhar 43.0
    Shotime 42.5
    DS 41.5
    TK 39.3
    Kane 38.5
    Philip 37.4
    JimmyJames 37.4
    Sue 36.2
    Captain 33.0
    Longshot 33.0
    Tom 31.0
    Matt 30.0
    Scott77 29.0
    Joshua 27.0
    AceMaster 25.9
    Rainshine 24.0
    Charlie 21.3
    Vicki 18.3

    1. Only need 6 more feet for my guess to verify. Could be a little off when it’s all said and done. Ha. 6 more inches is more like it.

    1. Well, that certainly looks nice. What are the chances that happens?
      About Nill. 😀

      I have to admire your positive attitude. Wish I had me some of that, but
      I clearly don’t! 😀

      1. I’m with you OS. It seems the past two winters the common theme has been…”next week a storm could be brewing.” Week after week, the snow does not come. No reason for me to think otherwise at this point.

        2. Absolutely – I keep going back to last years blogs and it was definitely the common theme then and it sure is now.

    1. I’m a very optimistic person. I love snow. It’s just that the pattern has held strong for the past two seasons. There is nothing else on the horizon either to talk about except for seasonally cold temps.

    2. My SIL got in a few days of skating on the ice rink in the yard. It’s now a swimming pool for the branches that flew around the other night!

    3. ok retrac I have a new plan……….

      If we are really, really tricky, we can get John to say the storm is NOT coming and Charlie to say it IS. We should be able to fool mom nature then, don’t ya think 😉

      1. I’m open to any ideas Vicki but that’d be a tough sell.

        We might have better luck relying on Hadi’s fan.

        I’m out of tricks now! 🙂

        1. My socks got the only one we had, John – only time I have worn them was before 12/29…..I’d say that makes us 1 and 0 😉 my favor

            1. John – you understand my comment was said in fun right? Since you typically say we will get the storm and charlie typically says we will not, I figured if we reverse we will fool mother nature.

              1. Yes. I’m good. I have no problem. Whats cooking. I was wondering if you were going to post your picture here lastnight.lol.

        2. I told my mom this is her fault that we do not have any storms effecting us and all of them to far out to give us good snowfall. then she said good no snow. we can get the patio finished.

  58. Cant wait for the groundhog tomorrow. How could he forecast 6 MORE weeks of winter, when we’ve basically had, um……. 1 !!!

    Since warmth is taking over, he has to be moved to early August, so he can more accurately say that there’s still 6 more weeks of summer left.

    1. To me it does not matter. In six weeks we will be heading in a new direction. March is a tricky month but for me I like it because it tells me the winter is almost gone. I hate winter, everything about it, except the holidays.

  60. There goes another storm to the wayside. Frustrating winter to say the least. That’s the one thing about looking at the models, you really set yourself up for dissapointment. I almost miss the days when I didn’t have as much acess to the data and resources we do today, although tracking storms is exciting. It’s a double edge sword I guess.

        1. Another hiccup (more polite than belch but same thing) by mother nature…………Boston hasn’t seen over 3.2 this season with all but three storms being in tenths of inches.

    1. well, they’ve all trended east and OTS this season Hadi so maybe we have a shot with one showing GLC. It still might not be west enough at this early run stage!

        1. Tt really is frustrating. Keep in mind, a 100 mile shift in a cutter is still a cutter. A 100 mile shift here is the difference between snowmageddon and a sunny day. Goes to show you how everything needs to be near perfect for big storms here.

    2. Hadi – nonweather related but twitter related. I have a twitter account – which I never use – and want to send a tweet to #clydesdales@budweiser

      Is it to complicated for you to tell me how to do that? Do I have to put all of that in somewhere or just the #clydesdales?

      Thank you – or anyone else who would like to help.

    1. He hasn’t had the best season (May mets haven’t in the past two years) but he is incredibly intelligent and a great broadcast met. I like him very much.

  66. I think it will snow again but it just gets tougher with each passing week, and like I said I think around mid Feb a slightly milder pattern will settle in and I also think precip in March will be above normal so hoping we can get some much needed precip,, will c

  67. There will be no snow in Boston Sunday period, there just going to Far East,, owell lawn comp just sent emails out saying there be out applying lime apps at end of the month, 1st sign of spring

    1. What if the ground is still frozen??? Lime has a hard enough time penetrating the soil as it is. If I was a customer I would not allow them to apply anything until the ground was warmer and unfrozen, IMO

    2. You for real. You actually telling us its not going to snow on Sunday when all mets calling for 1-3. Your crazy and that won’t happen.but you know what Charles, I would be happy if you were right. I can do without the overtime this weekend, I’m tired.

  68. Can anyone confirm if it’s actually snowing on nantucket? The precip from that last batch of energy was a tad closer than advertised. http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?zoommode=pan&prevzoom=zoom&num=6&frame=0&delay=15&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&ID=BOX&type=N0R&showstorms=0&lat=42.75411606&lon=-71.02879333&label=Groveland, MA&map.x=400&map.y=240&scale=1.000&centerx=400&centery=240&showlabels=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&lerror=20&num_stns_min=2&num_stns_max=9999&avg_off=9999&smooth=0

    1. 1Pm Obs:

      Last Updated: Feb 1 2013, 12:53 pm EST
      Fri, 01 Feb 2013 12:53:00 -0500
      Weather: Overcast
      Temperature: 33.0 °F (0.6 °C)
      Dewpoint: 10.9 °F (-11.7 °C)

      Look at the dew point. I don’t see it reaching the ground anytime soon. 😀

        2. That’s sure what it’s looking like now. Not much of
          anything and at this point, LUCKY to get an inch indeed!
          😀

  71. I just don’t see much, I mean we might see alot of coatings but this is going to be a nonevent, and I have checked to see if ground is frozen and more years than not the ground has not been frozen in late Feb early March, it’s kinda like my bushes I get the deep root feeding and always been done in late nov early dec and the ground more years than not are not frozen either

  72. That 12z snow map calls for one to three all right…..0.1″ to 0.3″ of accumulation. LOL! John, I can’t imagine you’d get called out for a quarter inch of snow.

    1. It’s a hospital Mark. What fell last Friday night we got called for that. I’m actually hoping we get nothing.

      1. John boston will get a coating to an inch and some will get nothing, either way this storm is to Far East, March 9th Spring ahead!!

      2. I realize. I would assume if you get called (which would suck for that amount of snow), it would at least be quick – a matter of salting the entire lot once and you would be done.

      4. Even the 12Z GFS is dead. H.M. talking about mid-month is a total pipe dream.

        If we start getting wet, lingering noreasters in April, I’m gonna be really pissed off.

      1. HM is talking about mid month. We all push things back and push things back and the result is always zilch! Come mid-month, HM will be saying early March, and then mid-March and then before you know it, it’s Spring.

        1. Ugh, i dont want either of them to win. Can it end in a tie?? lol 🙂 Im just gonna watch for the commercials

  76. In all seriousness, 12z Euro indicates:

    1. Sunday/Monday storm = OTS (it’s even a complete miss for Maine)
    2. Tuesday storm = OTS
    3. Wednesday storm =OTS
    4. Fri night/Saturday AM = looks like we may have a shot of snow from a clipper that take a closer pass. It tries to redevelop off the coast after it goes by but looks too late. Bears watching.
    5. Monday 2/11 storm – a warm lakes cutter just as the GFS depicts
    6. NAO = neutral to slightly positive in the long range. Not favorable for good snow.

    So maybe a little something next weekend as TK had been hinting at?? Not holding my breath though!

    1. I hinted at a MLK storm and nothing. TK hinted on a groundhog day storm and nothing. Believe me, he may be hinting at a storm for next weekend but guess what is going to happen–nothing.

      1. I’m not expecting much either, but if the Euro verifies, we could at least be looking at a few inches.

  77. Any of you characters want to get together in the next couple of weeks for a beer or something.

    Shoot out some ideas, dates if anyone is interested.

    1. Alright Hadi – It’ll take me a month of Sunday’s by horse and buggy from Worcester but I’m in.

      How about next Friday the 8th at what 6:30?

      Maybe we can use the week to get others to get there too.

  80. Huh? What’s this from Accu Weather????? 😀

    http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/newsstory/2013/400x266_02011737_weekendsnow.jpg

    And the post from NEWW discussed by Hadi:

    New England Weather Works
    GETTING ON MY SOAP BOX BEAR WITH ME.

    We have to be honest here, the pattern for snow lovers is not
    looking that good, the NAO remains positive so the storm track remains East of New England. When we have warm conditions the systems have no problem, the Models love taking a warm storm right in your back yard, when we are cold the GFS rolls up it’s tent and heads east with everything. Frustrating to say the least,not as much for us, but we wish you all had snow to sled and ski on. Not pulling the plug here but I am looking at the countdown clock toward spring, only 48 day’s to go. sorry.

      1. Met up with Hadi & Tom about a year ago and I’ve met Scott at the SNE Weather Conference. It’s doable. 🙂

    1. Don’t start with that Norlun stuff again O.S.!

      If you were to look at the Mona Lisa I’m betting you’d see a norlun trough in there somewhere.

        1. You have a better chance of Jesus coming down to tie your shoes than a norlun trough setting up over us.

    1. Sorry Hadi…I wasn’t paying attention. I thought that date was Wednesday night when I scrolled down quickly. Mondays, Tuesdays, Wed. no good but yes, Thursday the 21st at 7:00 works for me.

      Where’s the Yardhouse?

  87. Ok, so as of right now we have the Yard House in at 7:00 on Thursday night the 21st.

    The more the merrier!

  88. You know what’s gonna happen now: The only major snowstorm of the winter will hit on Thursday the 21st. 😛

  89. OK, is it Feb 21st at 7 pm at Yard House? Is this correct?

    retrac, if you don’t cut class once in awhile, you’re not a student.

    BTW, does anyone know what a Norlun Trough is? 🙂

  90. To nobody’s surprise, channel 7 has lowered their amounts for tomorrow even further. Far southeast MA and CC could see 1-2 while the rest of us including Boston north, west and southwest see a coating to an inch.

  91. I heard gutner on the way home and he said sundays storm wad going out to sea with flurries is that true. Oh that would be sweet. It’s been a long week.

        1. Time will tell. I have adjusted my sunday schedule as I’m planning on being called in. Would love no call in but not seeing that. Happy friday, man this week was long, almost a 60hr work week.

    2. Don’t worry John, 1) this storm will be nothing, 2) I am half convinced that Boston will never see another dumpster ever, and 3) it won’t take long before TV mets to call dustings and coatings, plowable events.

      1. I did not understand 3. It’s tough call with the hospital. Last Friday a couple guys went in, how much was that. Like I said I don’t want this one, we shall see. Horton out seven games from that fight.

  92. Oh how a couple of lean years mess with snowlovers’ minds. 😉

    Some of you either did (if you were here) or would have (if you were not here) hate(d) the 1980s.

      1. I remember that and I was a kid saying to cold to snow? What kind of crap is this but now that I’m almost 40 yrs old I know

  93. 1979-1980: Didn’t snow much.
    1980-1981: Didn’t snow much.
    1981-1982: Big storms December & April. Not much in between.
    1982-1983: Big mid February storm.
    1983-1984: Big end-of-March storm.
    1984-1985: Didn’t snow much.
    1985-1986: Didn’t snow much.
    1986-1987: Decent winter. Several good storms.
    1987-1988: So-so.
    1988-1989: Didn’t snow much.
    1989-1990: Coldest December on record followed by warmest January on record. Didn’t snow much though.

      1. 5 out of 10 decent winters in the 80s. Not bad. And when we got big storms in the 80s, they were huge! I remember those storms being slow movers with lots of juice and the snow would come down so hard that it sounded like sleet when the wind would push it against our windows. Those were the days. These days storms are flatter and more progressive. We’re lucky if it snows for greater than 8 hours.

          1. I have a few of those pics, i had a neon yellow snowsuit, i think my parents thought id get lost in the snow

  94. well storm track seems to be going down then up the coast but to far east and i think that will continue until the cold moves out and then lake cutters…. 🙁 mabye be one storm but my area will stay well below normal snowfall.
    but to cooler things than bla winters. How about a great june 2014 in Belize snorkle/diving trip. taking the course requirement, 800 bucks including airfair, instead of 4000 dollors. 3 college credits learning about and filming footage of the coral reefs. collecting data about the coral reefs for the NCRF .. I think i should try and take advantage of this. Any of you guys been there before.

    1. Never been there matt but sounds like a GREAT opportunity. I did something similar my junior year of college, went to Trinidad and Tobago for a 3 credit independent study with my ecology prof i was working for work study at the time. Some of the best times of my life as im sure they will be for you too!

    1. Thanks Hadi. I tried but am not sure it worked. I think a lot of people on twitter got my post. I tried a lot of times 🙂

      1. Sorry I’m in one of those foolish moods tonight. Happy with news my daughter got and have something going on in my throat and may have had an extra hot toddie!!!!!!!!!

        1. Hope you’re not coming down with the horrible cold that’s been going around. Had it once in September and again right before Christmas. It’s a doozy!!!

  97. Yardhouse it is. Hope most can come! I wonder if we should reserve something? Tends to get really packed there any night of the week.

  98. since mother nature is not being helpful conditions are great for snow making. i have a new snow gun blasting on Souza Hill from about 6pm to 1030 have a good amount of snow on the hill already.. I should be able to make snow until tuesday. though i will not be running it that much since it is a waste of water. i be blasting until i get 4 inches. on the hill. I like to have about a 3 inch base. kids will be able to go on it by sunday afternoon hopefully. 😉

      1. With high ratios it would. But were aren’t going to have real cold air. Also I checked the instant maps looks to be a solid 3″ for Boston. I’ll let OS post all those maps.

  105. I can make a reservation for the yard house. Yes TK they have tv. I will see where we standby next week and then can make a reservation.

  106. In checking quickly on Wikipedia, it appears that the first reference regarding Groundhog Day, thru a journal entry, came in Feb. 1841.

    The whole 6 more weeks of winter idea is understandable during the much more severe winters of the 1700s and 1800s. Looking back thru weather books and the idea of the Maunder Minimum, with the “mini ice age” back in the mid 1600s to early 1700s, it must have more frequently been very cold well into March and thus, this custom seems to be more reasonable. Back then, I’d think a morning in the teens must have seem relatively mild.

    Anyhow, the satellite seems to show clear skies over PA, so in theorey, he should see his shadow and that should imply 6 MORE weeks of winter (Hahahahahahahahahaha) to come. Doesnt the saying say enough ? When you hear 6 more weeks of winter, doesnt that make one think they had more frequently endured more than 6 weeks of winter beforehand ? I would submit that this custom or tradition speaks loudly to the relative warmth of today’s climate.

    Happy Groundhog Day !

  107. Happy Ground Hog Day!!! Early Spring according to Phil. Our Ground Hog in CT chuckles saw her shadow and says six more weeks of winter. Will see who is right.
    Nusiance snow for Super Bowl Sunday as the storm develops to far east to give us a big snowfall.

  108. Long-range forecast (for what it’s worth) looks terrible for winter people like myself. Depressing, really. I had hoped for a cold and possibly snowy February. Gosh, it looks like most of the month will be well into the 40s, SE ridge, and early spring. If this verifies, all I can say at this point is I am hoping that next winter is not like this one or last winter.

  109. We had a lot of winters in a row with below normal snowfall after the 95-96 winter and to me were repeating the cycle after a snowy 10-11 winter. It was not until 02-03 after the 95-96 winter that we had good snows.

  110. I’d have to do some research but I believe the shadow/no shadow is decided in a meeting weeks in advance. 😉

    I’m not sure where it all started and why, but I am pretty sure now the only use for the”forecast” is to boost publicity/tourism for the region. And because it’s a fun little tradition.

  111. I don’t often poke at HM, but in reference to the GFS mentioned above, HM posted the map on FB (I’m sure some of you may have seen it), and is taking quite a bit of heat already. I think I can understand why. 😉

          1. The Farmers’ Almanac would be another outlet for that time since that was one of there red flag events for the winter calling for a major northeast snowstorm.

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