1:15AM
The cold will be here for some time, as least in terms of March normals. That part is established. It will be mainly dry through the weekend into the very early part of next week. Only a light chance of light precipitation occurs with the passage of a weak disturbance late Friday while another low pressure area goes just south of New England on Saturday bringing nothing but the chance of a few light snow showers, largely a miss. A stronger low center will cruise into the Great Lakes early next week and redevelop near southern New England. With cold air locked in place, we’ll have to pay close attention to this system as it moves through the region Monday night into Tuesday. Though it’s still too early for details, there is certainly some threat of wintry precipitation with this system. After its passage, it looks like a chilly and drier pattern will resume.
Forecast for southeastern New England…
OVERNIGHT: Partly cloudy. Lows around 20 but ranging to the upper 20s to 30 urban centers and Cape Cod. Wind NW 5-15 MPH gusting over 20 MPH.
FRIDAY: Mostly cloudy. Highs 35-40. Wind NW 10-20 MPH with higher gusts.
FRIDAY NIGHT: Mostly cloudy. Chance of a few light snow showers. Lows 25-30. Wind W 5-15 MPH.
SATURDAY: Variably cloudy. Highs 35-40. Wind W to NW 10-20 MPH.
SATURDAY NIGHT: Partly cloudy. Lows 20-25. Wind W 5-10 MPH.
SUNDAY – ST. PATRICK’S DAY: Mostly sunny. Highs around 40. Wind NW to W 5-15 MPH.
MONDAY: Sunny start, cloudy finish, chance of mix/snow at night. Low 25. High 35.
TUESDAY: Storm of rain/ice/snow. Low 30. High 40.
WEDNESDAY: Partly sunny. Low 27. High 41.
THURSDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 22. High 39.
Thanks tk, daylight will be longer than 12hrs this weekend, sunrise is 6:47am and sunset is 6:55pm, should be nice today with a high in the low 40’s with some sun 🙂
Thanks TK. Like the title of this update.
Impressed by the morning cold, 21F at Logan at 6am and by the EURO’s projected 850 temps out through March 25th, all the way to the Gulf coast. Wow !!
Heading out for a full days work today, as long as the wind stays down and sun stays out it should be ok,,, Leon Washington to the Patriots was a great signing, love it,, thanks again tk 🙂
You love that signing? That is a stretch IMHO. Old and really doesn’t do much anymore.
They only really signed him to return punts and kickoffs, which he did very last year and made the pro bowl bc of it. They need someone to return kickoffs and punts other than edelman who seems to get hurt doing it. He will be a glorified expensive test dummy, lol.
Meant to say “very” well, and “crash test dummy.” Sorry, its early and havent had the coffee yet 🙂
Thanks TK. What a difference from last Friday. I am glad the is going to cooperate today for the trip down NYC to go see the taping of Wheel of Fortune this afternoon. The shows will air in May.
Have a fun, safe trip JJ!
Thanks Shotime.
Cool JJ Enjoy.
How’s the Euro looking? Have been able to see models lately
I Have not been able to see models..
TJ check out Retrac’s post on the previous blog. Its the final two comments.
Here is the Euro. A little better than yesterday:
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/euro/00zeuro850mbTSLPUS120.gif
Looking at other models, it looks like they want to develop the coastal too late.
Iffy situation that needs to be watched.
All I can say is brrrrrrr this morning.
something to think about for pats fans. im still mad we lost welker. but. welker was a nobody before he joined the patriots. Maybe this new guy will toughen up and get much better like welker did. Moss was on a downfall and he had his best season with the patriots and when he left he screwed up. so in bill we trust.
True matt, if ur comparing welker’s 100+ catches every year here in NE to his production in Miami then yes, he was a nobody before he came here, but dont forget, he was Miami’s leading receiver in receptions, with crappy QB’s and crappy offensive players around him. Translate that to NE, and he was the same player IMO. Tough, durable, quick; all the things u want in a slot receiver and a football player. Not many like him in the NFL if at all. Its a shame these arent the guys that get rewarded but yet the ones that get all the $$$ are complete a-holes and survive on talent only with no effort. Sorry matt, nothing against u, just my sports rant for the day 🙂 I do think however, Welker’s replacement COULD be good, but no welker.
i also for got that denver is in the easiest division to win.
And the AFC East is not easy 🙂 sorry the afc east is about the easiest division in football
i like welker do not get me wrong but we need to give this guy a chance since the damage has been done. if welker would come back i would take him. now only if we have both te’s healthy. hermendez honestly is the best offense weapon for brady. i say that because he can be in almost any position.
I agree matt, if this guy can stay on the field, he has a huge upside and could be a really productive player here. Brady will no doubt get him the ball, we’ll see what he does with it. Im not as worried about the offense as I am with the defense. Good defensive players are coming off the board fast now, and if they dont add any defense in free agency and just rely on the draft…well, we all know BB’s track record in drafting and developing in the defensive secondary…fair to poor IMO.
Offense will be a top 5 offense, the biggest issue the Pats have is on defense. As soon as you get into the playoffs it’s all about stopping people and the Pats have not been able to do that recently.
we have a good run defense but once you get past our first line and attack the back field we screwed.
925mb 0c temp. on euro is south of Boston (plymouth). It’s all going to be about B.L. inside of 95
Well said ace. Last thing I say on this because we need to focus on weather. Shame on Kraft for letting this happen. He and bill did not even showup at the negotiations leaving Wes and his agent in utter disbelief. You can argue this if you want but wes is the toughest receiver in the game today period. Fearless, humble, take one for the team kind of guy, everything you could want in an NFL player. Great role model for kids. Wes got screwed and the real NFL fans know that. I always thought kraft was a stand-up guy, I don’t know more. He let Welker walk away. Brady is pissed.
The real nfl fans John? Season ticket holder and nfl fan since the mid 80’s, been to 9 sb’s all of the Patriots championships and superbowl appearances, I agree with letting welker go, if anyone is not a fan after that haha u were never a fan to begin with, sorry John maybe jump on the Redskins bandwagon 🙂
ummmm that comment gave me pause as well, Charlie. I think there are many REAL NFL fans who see the logic in this move.
Stop reading into it. real fan meaning someone who has knowledge of the game, thats all.
I’d say both charlie and I also have knowledge of the game.
Whatever.
I’ve been a fan for many years charlie. I don’t miss a game. Unfortunately I have never been to a game.
and he can speak in sentences unlike rob
Looking at 0Z Euro with the Wundermap, it sure looks like a decent slug of snow,
even in Boston before a changeover. 850MB temps go above freezing from hour 117 through hour 123.
Retrac or Hadi, curious about total qpf on this run. It looks to be significantly more
than previous runs.
many thanks
OS, when this storm first showed up on the models it was pegged for a wed event, has it moved to more of a tues event now i see?
Yes, perhaps even commencing late Monday night.
.92 QPF for Boston, way less than previous run.
Thanks Hadi.
Wundermap is very deceiving. 😀
Pats are hosting John Abraham, Adrian Wilson and Dwight Freeney today.
Big deal.
Wow….
How old is Dwight Freeney? 107? 😀
Hadi will hate him too unless he’s a redskin
Os he would be a great pickup for 2nd and 3rd downs, not an every down player
I want Abraham
Agreed
Hadi c’mon no team has won more games,playoffs or even been to more superbowls than any team in nfl since 1996, Hadi u hate the patriots u always will esp when theyve won going on a 1/3rd of our life’s, anything the patriots do you will be objective, the redskins yes have improved in recent years BUT they r far from what the Patriots have achieved, everyone in the country has an opinion about Patriots, good or bad but no one esp here has an opinion about redskins, c’mon , ur beginning to sound like your jeaoulous mad upset or hate the 4th most valuable franchise in the world, it’s 1 of them bud, onto the weather now 🙂
Ed Reed would be nice…
The Glove (well Boston.com) floated the idea of going after Pollard.
Glove=Globe…LOL.
Charlie far from, you don’t know me. It’s a league about what you have done for me lately. I have said many times I love Brady but dislike BB. What have I said that is disparaging against the Pats? The AFC east is easy, they can’t win in the playoffs unless they upgrade the defense. These are facts, sorry you can’t see it. I have never said anything about the Redskins so to bash them. As a franchise the Redskins have had just as much success as the Pats but clearly not recently. A team is judged on Championships and the Pats and Skins have the same number. Anyway having a conversation with you is pointless as you can’t see it from an objective standpoint 🙂
Agree 100% on the defense.
Has anybody noticed this has been a windy winter or is it just me ?
Many large systems in this pattern…extensive wind fields.
Hi Cat – I did notice and I also think the past couple of years have been very windy – winter and summer. I enjoy the wind so tend to notice.
I think Wes is a great slot receiver, but was also the beneficiary of playing with a HOF QB and most likely a future HOF TE (if Gronk can stay healthy..) and other assets (Moss, etc.). He should have the same success in Denver w/Manning given the tempo of their offense and surrounding talent. I agree w/the above post regarding the defense.
It has been a LONG time since the Patriots had a Championship caliber defense. How many mediocre QBs have shredded the Pats defense in the past 5 years?!? It takes a Team to win a title, the Patriots need a defense as formidable as their offense.
Captain I absolutely agree. Also Brady didn’t have a really good wide receiver and had to go to Welker who doesn’t go further than 20. I’d really like to see them get an exceptional wide receiver.
I think Abraham would be a good signing as a situation player. Charlie I would not want Freeney on the Skins, I am tried of old, high priced free agents.
Abraham would be a moderate to BIG signing,
You can’t live off of past success Charlie, I don’t with the Skins. I have been frustrated for years, but I know it comes in cycles and they are turning it around.
I’m not really going by past success other than last yr, the Patriots were the 4th best team last yr and the year before that if welker made that catch we would have been the best team, not really going that far back bud 🙂
You really care if your the 4th best? And I can say a lot of if’s etc…. All that matters is if you are holding the Lomardi.
Sure I do bud, better than 28 other teams , can’t win them all
Bingo!!! Exactly right Charlie
In fact I know that every year when the season starts the Pats have a better chance than most teams in NFL of making it to the Super Bowl.
agreed pats are always in the playoffs. we need a defense thats imtimidating. we need a heivy hitter. we need some that will punish the recievers
They need defense
And tell me what are you going to do when Brady retires? He has been the heart and soul of that organization. BB owes him his career.
Patriots suprisley have been able to draft ok to good qb’s in the past to now, will see
Who’s an ok QB that they have drafted in the last 10 years.
That doesn’t make any sense…they haven’t had the need. You might argue that Matt Cassell was a good pick. He certainly picked up the slack (11-5 season) when Brady went down. The Patriots are about the system more than the players. Oh yeah…I forgot …Brady made BB (ducking from a Hadi snowball here LOL).
Hadi…on another note have you heard if RG is going to be ok for next year? Hope so.
I was asking Charlie what QB they have drafted, I agree they have not had the need. Matt Cassel? really 1 good year.
Well he had one good year here and one good one in KC. My point is more about the system here than the QB. Altho I don’t think we would have had the same success we’ve had with another QB.
They haven’t needed to but before that was Bledsoe
Hadi…I think it works both ways. Some coaches would have put Bledsoe back in when he was healthy. Not BB. BB may not be perfect but damn I don’t want any other coach right now. The Patriots from 2001/02 going forward have been the most disliked team in the NFL by a lot of the fans. Why because they win. Yeah…I know they haven’t won the Super Bowl in a while but they have been the most successful team in the NFL during that period when you put the whole package together.
I totally agree Keith about putting in Brady. I don’t think the Pats are hated, I think BB is hated.
True…but a lot fans hate the team too…kinda like how we hate the Yankees.
Of course I heard rumblings of haters after 04 Championship, great moment 🙂
Attitude reflects leadership…(from remember the titans) Thats why the pats are hated. Its all about how the coach is perceived. If BB was a personable, emotionally available guy, the team would be more loved by others ouside of pats fans.
Could not have said it any better Ace 🙂
So True
Agree but he’s ours 🙂
Realy hadi, hated. Think again. He is a well respected coach
Anyways moving onto the weather, got down to 23.4 degrees last night brrr
It was chilly last night for sure.
And BTW I love the Sox, Celtics and Bruins 🙂
Haha I was brought up around football since I was practically born its football and Patriots practically all year for me, I like the redsox and celtics, but for me hockey don’t matter
B’s looked good last night in the 1st and 3rd. Sloppy during the 2nd. They did get the win.
Report from Fort Myers.
Current Temp: 54
Today’s High: 75
Skies: Sunny
Wind: 8-12 mph from the NE
Sunset: 7:35 pm
omg. all the sports talk. snooooooooooorezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Sorry no more sports talk 🙂
Football gets me talking, wont happen again
Slow weather day. We’ve always talked about different things out here when that happens and most people like talking sports.
An isolated thread is AOK with me. 50+ comments? Ehhhhhh…..
😉 Kidding, all in good fun.
You kids and your sportsball. Go to ESPN.com.
Kid!!!?? I’m 57 LOL
I’m 63 and LOVE BEING CALLED A KID!!
Ok, you crazy middle aged people and your sportsball. 😉
Scott and i are probably the two youngest. 😛
I also love middle aged. Thanks. 😉
Am I reading these models right that this is rain for Boston south and a mix north and west of 128, and snow around 495?
Plows needed Monday night? Maybe…
I didn’t see that here in my neck of the woods?
In Woburn?
All but South Coast and Cape Cod potentially.
South Coast = ???
Mix to rain probably. A bit early to call details of course. 🙂
Only for certain areas.
Doing a 100 homes next week south of Boston, I did not see that, that’s why I ask, thanks tk 🙂
Street cleaners out in Wayland today……….their streets were absolutely horrendous during the last storm – literally worst around and they have the street sweepers out. Go figure
I think the cold holds on longer and people will be surprised.
Agreed, Hadi. I thought the models were underplaying the cold when I analyzed them 3-4 days ago. Most forecasts then were showing lows for Thursday night in Boston in the upper 20s. It sure got colder than that last night. I think the differential between daytime high and night-time low will be substantial during this cold stretch. Mid 40s during the day may be followed by 20 at night in some places on some days.
It already has. Man, I was shocked when I woke up this morning!
I think you are right also Hadi but mine is a gut feeling. I’m not sensing winter is going anywhere fast this year.
This is for Keith above, From what I have heard and read he is way ahead of schedule, but that could be garbage marketing 🙂 But he has been working out 6-8 a day at Redskins Park. The word out of DC is they are expecting him to be ready for week 1. The NFL did contact the Skins asking about his status due to prime time game scheduling and the response was he will be ready for week 1. I can’t see them lying to the NFL about that either, so I am optimistic that he will be ready when the season starts.
He will be ready hadi
Hadi what’s your email?
Talk sports?
check your email from Longshot from the get together
Ok
The EURO continues to tend colder for Monday night-Tuesday’s event. A cold airmass is certainly in place. I think it’s possible we see many hours of snow before an ultimate changeover to rain at the tail end of the storm as we lose dynamic mechanisms and the B.L eventually takes over. Not a blockbuster storm but several inches before the change over seems likely to me.
Agree at this point.
More snow in northern NE? or still not even a major storm up there at this point?
More snow for central and eastern maine as the storm gathers over the gulf of maine. Should the storm develop sooner and tracks a bit further east, heavier snow could be possible even in SNE.
Snow in central and northern NE is badly needed to keep the ski season going through March and into early April. Bare ground in some places up there as of last week in northern VT. A week of above freezing temps and the season will be drastically shortened without an addition of snow pack soon.
I don’t know how much of this is Lake enhanced, but this are pretty strong
snow echos.
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?location=USCT0094&animate=true
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/nerfc/graphics/snowmaps/sd1_today.jpg
Snowcover
Thanks for posting that Charlie. Dwindling fast. Most of that in central and northern NE is elevation snowpack too. You get halfway down and then to the valley floors and there’s nada.
Are we going to make it to 35-40 degrees today? My home temp is 24 degrees in the south end currently.
I was just gonna post that DS. Here in walpole its been struggling to get past 32 all morning. Even though the march sun is strong, it still feels like winter out there.
It’s a cold day for March. Wondering how we miss that snow this weekend.
We miss it because the system is really 2 systems, 1 that’s very weak, and the other that’s passing south of us.
I keep forgetting the model runs come out an hour later…
36.4 here with a DP of 5 and a gusty wind up in the teens. Feels nice — I have gone outside several times to take a nice deep breath of fresh air!
I was just saying to a coworker that I hope my boys get to go outside today at their schools. It is brisk but the fresh air feels so good!
Sue sorry been a busy afternoon. But its a great day to play outside. Did the boys get out?
We miss the snow this weekend because a weak ripple slides too far south of the area to produce much more than a few flurries. However, several inches is likely Monday night into Tuesday before a change to rain at the very end as the marine layer takes over. Should this storm develop sooner and further south, greater snow accumulations would occur. Watch for models to trend colder with the cold airmass in place.
A lot of storms this year have done just that arod.
very true!
12Z CMC at 96 hours:
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=12&mod=gemglb&stn=PNMPR&comp=1&run2=12&mod2=gemglb&stn2=PNMPR&hh2=108&fixhh=1&hh=096
850mb Chart not available yet. This is a pretty decent slug of precip. Just don’t
know what the thermal profiles are for this run.
Within an hour of the Euro.
Looking at subsequent charts, I’m guessing 850mb temps are NG for Eastern SNE. Looks like secondary low develops:
1. Too late
2. Inland some
Still some time. We shall see.
Even with this run, I’m sure there will be some snow up front before
a changeover.
12Z GFS, too little, too late with secondary development.
Probably know accumulation in Boston, but who knows.
Disagree John. Could see several inches even in Boston before the changeover due to a cold airmass that is in place.
Who knows how it will go. I hope it rains.
12Z CMC high res shows a little snow and then change back to rain, but Maine gets pounded. Taking a look at the 12Z GFS and it’s still warm but way different low placement than yesterday’s run.
http://collaboration.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/cmdn/pcpn_type/pcpn_type_gem_reg.html
That’s No Good. Let’s hope it trends colder. 😀
The EURO has been the furthest south with 2nd development down near the Delmarva.
I think the EC will prevail
Well this isn’t any good! 12Z Euro at 96 hours:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF-php/showmap-ecmwf.php?run=2013031512®ion=USA&var=PRMSL_msl&hour=096
It now looks like the Euro is coming on board with all of the others.
This system is doomed. Look where primary is at 72 hours:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF-php/showmap-ecmwf.php?run=2013031512®ion=USA&var=PRMSL_msl&hour=072
Can Anyone ever remember SNE getting a significant snow storm with a Primary
storm in this position? I think not.
Whatever we get will be from persistent cold air damming and for coastal SNE,
I don’t see that as much at all at this point.
This was a most disappointing run to me.
IF it doesn’t want to produce, then BRING ON SPRING!!!!!! 😀
The Euro can have bad runs OS. Don’t forget its still almost 4 days away still have lots of time to change.
That is true, However, given that it has come around to ALL of the
other models gives me reason to believe that it’s all over, save for a period of overrunning until the cold air is scoured out.
Of course, I will still look at subsequent runs, hoping for a change. Didn’t like results of this run. I have no knowledge as to whether it is a valid run or not. Until I/we hear otherwise, I suspect it is perfectly fine. Just don’t like what it depicts. 😀
Go euro.
This could provide some front end snow
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/euro/12zeuro850mbTSLPUS096.gif
Still far out guys.
Perhaps, but still not liking it. 😀
FWIW, now that the Euro looks warmer for our area, it cranks out more qpf. 😀 😀 😀
Not really OS, it spits out .81 QPF for Boston
Pk, but it plunks most of it down in a short time. Wundermap showed
greens, while previously only showed blues. 😀
This weekend and most of next week looks chilly with snow and or rain Tue but long range from around the 22nd or 23rd it wants to get milder and moderate temps consistently closer to 50 degrees, I believe that’s normal for late March
I hope your correct, but those 850 mb temps look awfully chilly.
Man, do we get emotional from one model run to the next. The EC typically loses the feature in this range before returning to its earlier runs. Yes, I know the EC trended toward the rest of the models, but let’s not get our hairs up in a bunch from one run. Who knows? Perhaps the warmer solution will win indeed. Afterall, it is almost spring. But, as you know the old saying, “Patience is a virtue.”
Arod,
Unfortunately, “Patience is a virtue.” is something I have been lacking since
Birth. One of my many character flaws. 😀
Seriously, I wouldn’t mind so much, but since it seems to have joined the others, it is more disturbing than usual, that is all.
Hey, the weather will be what it will be and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it. Just hang on and enjoy the ride.
BUT again I say, if it’s not going to Snow, then don’t give us cold weather.
BRING ON SPRING and WARMTH!!!!
Completely agree OS. I am in the camp that if presented with a choice between another blizzard or immediate 70s and 80s, I would choose the ladder. However, since spring doesn’t seem to be coming any time soon, I’d welcome another snowstorm. This could be our last chance of a snowstorm in Boston this season, but warmer weather isn’t likely to arrive until some time in April at the earliest. Cold and dry weather looks to follow this storm next week. We are in a frustrating time where we are between snow and warm temps.
Indeed, it happens every Spring. Well almost every one. 😀
I just feel its going to be rain in most areas.if this one does not pan out, as you guys say stick a fork in it and bring on spring than hot weather.
To add insult woodhead is now a charger.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT!)(@#&*(!&*@)(#*!)(@#*)!(@*#)(!@*#)(*!)(@#*()!@*#()!*@)#*!*(@#*
Relax 🙂 . The number of titles the Pats won with those 2 on the roster is what 32F equals in Celcius.
😀 The 850mb Chart Boys, eh?
LOL !
Tom I absolutely LOVE your logic.
Woodhead was a nice player especially on 3rd down conversions but do not feel he is a huge difference maker. Will miss him but the pats will be okay. I’m not so sure with Amandola, the injury prone slot receiver who is supposed to replace Welker.
Sure, you are correct. I just liked Woodhead, another tough
little bugger. He just seemed to make things happen. There was NO reason to lose him. Is there a behind the scenes story with him as well?
Danny Amendola is a nice player. ODDS favor that he Will NOT be in the field (due to injury) for nearly as many plays as Welker was.
I think because the Pats have Ridley (feature back), Vereen (emerging back) and now Leon Washington (a third RB) that Woodhead felt it was necessary to leave NE.
After looking at the last several runs of the EURO, I can come to one and only one conclusion ……..
Global cooling.
Haha, I guess Al Gore is going to have to lower the price of Carbon Credits to encourage more CO2 emmisions.
I think he’s too busy inventing things that have already been around for years. 😛
EURO pounds Maine, Augusta looking at 12+ inches
This will trend colder IMHO, watch by Sunday.
Hope you are correct. Usually I’m with you, but I am just not feeling it.
Not liking what I see. We shall see.
You were feeling it up until the last Euro run. Have faith.
If you can stand it, Some more info on Decreasting snow totals for the Mid-Atlantic
region:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/maryland-virginia-winters-turn-less-snowy-as-new-york-boston-enjoy-snow-bonanza/2013/03/14/625228fc-8cbf-11e2-9f54-f3fdd70acad2_blog.html
Interesting NWS comparison of weather patterns between last Winter
and this Winter:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/188912_420497461377964_435508404_n.jpg
Been chatting with a colleague. Cold air has been underforecast this week by models and look for this to be the case right through the storm threat next week. This lends credibility to a nice shot of front-end snow Monday night if the timing is right. The timing HAS to be right. If it’s slower, less snow threat. 3+ days to work this one out.
😀
Look at the position of this system on the 18Z NAM at 75 hours!
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2013031518&var=PCPPRSTMP_850mb&hour=075
This thing is already well into Canada North and West of Lake Superior.
Excellent way to get snow in New England!
We’ll need some quick overrunning while we can hold onto the cold. 😀
Even so, as of 84 hours or 1AM Tuesday, it clearly shows some front end snow
and it’s not done just yet. At least a couple of more hours to go:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013031518&time=24&var=ASNOWI&hour=084
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2013031518&var=PCPPRSTMP_850mb&hour=084
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2013031518&var=PCPTHKPRS_1000-500mb&hour=084
Any coastal/secondary development is too close to the coast or even inland.
=> NG.
Hey TK,
Are you familar with any of these publications of Raymond Wexler?
Did you ever hear of Him?
Curious. I worked with him at Air Force Cambridge Research Labs in the 60s.
MARINE METEOROLOGY. GROWTH OF RAIN IN WARM CLOUDS by Raymond Wexler (1954)
The melting layer (Blue Hill Meteorological Observatory. Meteorological radar studies) by Raymond Wexler (1955)
Advection and the melting layer (Blue Hill Meteorological Observatory. Meteorological radar studies) by Raymond Wexler (1957)
Moisture supply and growth of stratiform precipitation, (Blue Hill Meteorological Observatory. Meteorological … by Raymond Wexler (1957)
Growth of rain in warm clouds (Reference no) by Raymond Wexler (1954)
Cirrus clouds in tropical storms by Raymond Wexler (1966)
The trade wind inversion as a factor in hurricane formation (WHOI) by Raymond Wexler (1957)
Synoptic analysis of Tiros III radiation measurements (AFCRL) by Raymond Wexler (1964)
Even though it is still too warm for snow, this set up from the 12Z JMA is better
than the other models: 😀
http://grib2.com/jma/CONUS_JMA_1000-500_SLPTHKPRP_96HR.gif
This 18Z DGEX isn’t as bad either:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/DGEXEAST_18z/f090.gif
😀
I didn’t think anyone was around. 😀
It’s been absolutely dead. I’ll hang around these boards until this storm and when no more snow threats appear viable, you won’t hear from much of me until perhaps the summer if there is a good line of storms heading our way or if there is a tropical storm threat.
Well, it’s been a pleasure.
I do hope you stop by before next Winter.
Like you said, perhaps on T-storm days or
Tropical events.
Enjoy your Summer.
Not so fast OS. This storm is not over yet. You’re stuck with me for another few days at least 😉
Oh, I understood that. 😀
Todd Gutner posted this Euro Snow Map:
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/45446_446849238724062_430692865_n.png
That’s precisely what I’m thinking: 3-6 Boston north and west with closer to 3 in the city and 6+ north and west of the Worcester Hills.
Something like that, although the way that last run went, could be less. Then again, the way the NAM is trending, could be a bit more even. I reserve judgement until I see some more data.
I really want to see how the NAM handles this situation.
BTW, need a few more inches in boston to get to my season prediction of 60 inches. Would like to see that. 😀
I think you will come very close by Tuesday around noon time
😀 😀
I’m having a hard time believing 3 inches in the city. If this is during the day no way will it accumulate on roadways. With the right conditions maybe at night. Of course I’m guessing here. I honestly believe this is the last shot at snow.
Non-Weather funny video of “talking” Goats, sort of. Has to be seen. Hilarious. 😀
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_A742sRonE
lol! The last goat was the best!!!
Hey, I’m glad you liked it. I thought it was unbelievably funny.
I liked the one that kind of spit at the guy. 😀
Excellent!!! Great post OS
Thanks, OS – awfully cute! 🙂
The EURO Pondering whether the next event will bring Snow or Rain?
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/481282_437818836300814_1035379072_n.jpg
LOL
I don’t like the cold it’s showing far out O.S.!
how about the 18z GFS with the 0c line all the way down to just north of Brownsville TX during the period!
We are so not out of the woods yet.
Big fat flakes flying at my house in nh
Euro snow maps shows 3-6 for eastern mass. Hmmmmmm
models have been predicting temperatures a tad to high and thus is why i think everyone starts out as snow then changes. to rain from southeast to northwest. with areas north of rt2 and east of i95. ( interior northeast mass.) could see mainly snow. but remember that snow will take a while to accumulate and not do much durring the days.
euro said today was suppose to be in the low to mid 40s it did not get above 35 for the past 2 days. and even the warm days earlier this week was about 5 degrees cooler than predicted by most models.
The word is tenacious. I think we’ll see some tenacious cold the coming days. Not just this weekend. I think the front coming through after the storm will usher in some rather cold air as well. With the March wind, it’ll feel particularly cold. Any warm-up after that may be temporary at least for the time being. But, don’t worry, spring and summer folks, winter is only just holding on.
I love this time of year, winter barley holding on. Maybe some snow or maybe not. Maybe some cold days but warm ones as well. The best part is that winter is on its last breath and getting close for a long nap. Yay,yay and more yay. Bring on shorts, warm days, cookouts, baseball, hot looking ladies I love it all.
Not a bad night tonight I didn’t think, just got back from Patriot Place Davios, a few sprinkles on window but that’s about it here, temp down to 34.4 degrees
Hey,
Look like the Nogaps has received a new name: navgem
This was the only site I could find with an actual chart that
would display.
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/navgemtc2.cgi?time=2013031512&field=Sea+Level+Pressure&hour=108hr
Too bad this model didn’t have what it takes. 😀
It was autumn, and the Indians on the remote reservation asked their new Chief if the winter was going to be cold or mild. Since he was a new Indian Chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the old secrets, and when he looked at the sky, he couldn’t tell what the weather was going to be. Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he replied to his tribe that the winter was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect wood to be prepared. But also being a practical leader, after several days he got an idea. He went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked,
“Is the coming winter going to be cold?”
“It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold indeed,” the meteorologist at the weather service responded.
So the Chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more wood in order to be prepared. A week later he called the National Weather Service again.
“Is it going to be a very cold winter?”
“Yes,” the man at National Weather Service again replied, “it’s going to be a very cold winter.”
The Chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every scrap of wood they could find. Two weeks later he called the National Weather Service again.
“Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?”
“Absolutely,” the man replied. “It’s going to be one of the coldest winters ever.”
“How can you be so sure?” the Chief asked.
The weatherman replied, “The Indians are collecting wood like crazy!”
Love it 🙂
lol
Nam snow map.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013031600&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=084
Not looking like a whole bunch before a changeover.
That says about an inch on grassy surfaces changing to rain
GFS snow map:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2013031600&time=48&var=ASNOWI&hour=102
A little more than the NAM 😀
O.S. .. I have heard of Wexler but I have not read any of those publications. 🙂
If anybody’s looking for “Spring temperatures”, redefine it for yourself. Spring in New England is not that warm a time (at least on average for much of it). Seems to be a misconception that we have warm Springs. They are an anomaly. The averages show otherwise, and are more often than not impacted by refrigerated air from lingering deep snow not far north of here, and believe me there is a whole lot of snowcover (2-3 feet) in far northern New England and nearby Canada. Another frequent contributor of course is the Atlantic Ocean. W to SW winds are about the only truly warm winds for the next couple months. Even a southerly wind can bring cooling from the waters just south of New England to at least the South Coast.
Yes there is a legitimate snow threat for Monday night & early Tuesday.
No this is NOT the last snow threat for the season so don’t give yourself any false hope there either. 🙂
TK, To your point of snow threat.I recall sometime in 80’s I think we plowed 3 times in April in the 128 belt Weston,Sudbury area. Just takes a good pool of Cold to our north.
Fat Lady has not sung!!!
00z euro colder- more snow
Hi all – for the first time in 15 years I did not go for a walk last night and enjoy New England weather. Our faithful dog Skipper passed yesterday morning. I can not find the source… but I understand if you are a mutt near Boston you can claim 99% Irish descent. If you are so inclined, please take a sip in his honor, we are celebrating his wonderful life this weekend. Cheers. For the record Skipper loved snow: http://t.co/kuViWPYfdq
Captain, so sorry for you and your family on the loss of your dog.
🙂
Captain, I am so sorry that you lost your dog. My heartfelt wishes go out to you and your family. We lost our cat of 16 yrs. last summer. I know how hard it can be. We did get another cat, ‘though. We love her dearly but we will always miss our other cats that we had. Do you think you will get another dog?
Sorry to hear Captain. I sometimes still look at various areas in our backyard and can recall seeing our dog comfortably plopped. He made it to 15, as well.
Captain I cannot tell you how sorry I am. I felt as if I knew skipper just from your comments here. My thoughts are with you and your family. The picture made me cry. In time you will have such beautiful memories to relive.
sorry for your lost. pets becomes a family member who ever says otherwise has never had a pet. Its a missing link to the family.
I’m sorry to hear about your loss. Dogs can be such wonderful, faithful animals.
Captain so sorry to hear. We lost our dog of 16 years in 2005. My wife hasn’t gotten over it yet. It’s a crying shame those beautiful creatures don’t live as long as humans. And one last note, as my wife always says: Dog equals God spelled backwards.
Captain sorry you lost your dog.
From the reading I have done as I was down in NYC seeing Wheel of Fortune yesterday were still on target for a stormy end to the winter of 2012-13. It looks to be a tough morning commute especially across the interior. Higher elevations look to have the most snow from this upcoming storm system.
Hope it was a great time JJ !
Yes, it looks that way. It might be tough even near the coast, at sea level, for a while. Its extremely cold in all of Canada and as high pressure noses down tonight, I think a good supply of cold, dry air is going to settle into New England. That airmass, in some form will still be around long enough that the initial hrs of precip Mon night/ Tues morn are going to be snow.
JJ was it tons of fun. Have you been to a live show before?
Sorry captain!! I have lost a dog and two cats so I truly feel your pain. The love of a dog is unbiased and true. There is not better love than that of a beloved dog. May he rest in peace.
Hi Tom…. I had a great time just like I did the first time I saw Wheel of Fortune taped in NYC in 2007. The theatre at Madison Square Garden is nice and I was much closer than I was the first time I went when they taped at Radio City Music Hall.
The shows that I saw will air on 4/29 4/30 and 5/1. There were some funny moments with some answers that made the crowd left and one very excited contestant who is a teacher from Bellville, NJ.
Very cool ………. had no idea MSG had a theatre.
Oops I should have read further. Please remind us again as the time is closer if you think of it. I’d like to watch.
It was interesting to see US temperatures around 3-4pm DST yesterday. The country was split in two. It was big time warm in most of the southern US, starting in central North Carolina, headed all the way westward to the Pacific Ocean. 70s and 80s were common, with low 90s appearing in the desert SW.
While I know that airmass has no chance of reaching the northeast in the next 10 days under the current pattern, it is another sign of how much stronger the sun has become. While we barely struggle to 40F the next 10 days, thats yet another 3 to 4 degrees the sun will climb higher in the sky.
So, sometime in early April, when I’ll guess this impressive block will relax some, the likelihood is that a very nice Spring day will suddenly appear and after all this chill, it probably will feel even warmer than the thermometer says.
I agree Tom that first 65 day will feel like 85.
Things are trending colder for sure. Important to see how much precip comes in overnight Monday.
Captain, sorry for the loss of your dog. Having lost mine, I know the feelings you have only to well.
Sorry to hear about your dog, Captain. It’s hard to lose them. They are family members. My brother has always had dogs (they are his children). I was particularly close to the first one he had (Poco) because she lived here with us at the time for much of her life. We were lucky that she lived 17 great years and was happy. Not easy to say goodbye. Celebrate his life. Maybe Skipper and Poco will be friends in a different place.
From BB
@BarryWBZ: Snow starts Monday evening with up to 2-4″ on the ground by 7am Tuesday! Expect more snow after that!
Regarding the upcoming threat for Monday night & Tuesday, some of the area may not only have trouble with front end snow, but mid-storm icing and possibly back end snow blitz issues.
The bomb-out of this low being as close as it is likely be (per 00z Euro) has me concerned.
Not surprised at all how this is evolving. The Euro has been so damn cold. It’s got 522 thickness over us at the end of the period!
This will not be the last IMHO.
Its amazing. Though its mid March, because the airmass preceding and after the storm is very cold and not marginal, I think it can almost be treated as a mid winter storm with regards to precip type. IE, really concentrate on where the mid level warmth is, because, in the snow area, its going to be cold enough where I’m not sure the midday high angle sun is going to do enough to warm up surface temps towards that 32F-34F non accumulating range.
I’m thinking of celebrating the first weekend of “Spring” with a trip to Amesbury Sports Park for snow tubing next Saturday. They are still open with lots of snow on the ground, a cold week, and more snow/ice coming. I don’t think they are closing like the 1st week of March last year (they barely stayed open that long).
I think I know where you are talking about because we always passed by it taking 495 northbound to Hampton Beach, when I lived in Lowell. Tubed there myself about 20 yrs ago (wow)……….. I could be wrong, but I think Brad Park may have had some ownership in that place at one time ??
Enjoy !!
That’s the place. I’d go today but too short-a-notice for the people I’d take and my son already has plans with his friend. 🙂 But given the pattern, I think they easily go through next weekend getting people on the “slopes”.
Yes, I’d think they’ll be in decent shape next weekend as well. Hope it works out !
Hi Vicki…. It was a lot of fun going to NYC to see Wheel of Fortune. I went back in 2007 when the show taped in NYC at Radio City Music Hall. This time the venue was smaller at the theatre at Madsion Square Garden. I was closer than I was back in 2007. The shows will air that I saw on 4/29 4/30 and 5/1. There was one very enthusiastic contestant and some answers given that were quite funny. Pat and Vanna are very nice and came out to talk to the crowd.
0z EURO projected snowfall. Thanks to one of the contributers on wxedge.com for posting this.
http://www.wxedge.com/articles/20130316early_week_wintry_mix
0Z Euro at 96 hours:
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/euro/00zeuro850mbTSLPUS096.gif
Another view:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF-php/showmap-ecmwf.php?run=2013031600®ion=USA&var=PRMSL_msl&hour=096
I’ll post some Wundermap screen shots.
As others have stated, this run is colder still. And coastal is a bit farther to the East
and it really intensifies with Back end snows.
0Z CMC at 90 hours:
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ggem/00zggem850mbTSLPp06090.gif
96 hours:
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ggem/00zggem850mbTSLPp06096.gif
This one is warmer than the Euro, but we know it is not as reliable as
the Euro. 😀
0Z Ukmet at 96 hours:
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=00&mod=ukmet&stn=PNM&comp=1&run2=00&mod2=ukmet&stn2=PNM&hh2=000&fixhh=1&hh=096
0Z Euro Ensemble Mean:
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwfens/00zecmwfens850mbTSLPUS096.gif
I think that looks much like the operational run, eh? 😀
A little bit colder than operational run. 😀
Sorry, this is my morning blitz. No coffee yet. 😀
NAM looks COLDER as well. Waiting for the 12Z run to complete.
06Z run had coastal more off shore than previous runs and thus of course colder.
TK’s been on this one from the get go!!! Nice job TK.
This one has really been on again off again. TK, Retrac, Arod and Hadi have all been
warning to give it time and not to give up on it. All correct! 😀
That pattern is just there O.S. – bottom line.
0Z Euro at 90 hours:
http://i.imgur.com/b172Ead.png
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