7:27AM
Just a quick forecast update – no big changes to the discussion from Sunday evening. Full update this evening.
Forecast for southeastern New England…
TODAY: Mostly sunny to partly cloudy. Highs 70s South Coast, lower 80s elsewhere. Wind S increasing to 10-20 MPH.
TONIGHT: Partly to mostly cloudy. Lows in the 60s. Wind SW 5-15 MPH.
WEDNESDAY: Partly to mostly cloudy. Highs 70s south Coast, 80-85 elsewhere. Wind SW 10-20 MPH.
THURSDAY: Variably cloudy. Episodes of showers/thunderstorms. Low 65. High 80.
FRIDAY: Partly sunny. Low 58. High 78.
SATURDAY & SUNDAY: Partly cloudy. Lows around 60. Highs around 80.
MONDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 63. High 85.
TK thanks. Thursday looking like the rain day we need.
Thank you TK – maybe we can actually get the grub stuff down on Wednesday night for the rain on Thursday. John….can we do grub stuff and fertilizer at the same time? Thank you!!
Yes if it’s not on a Newly seeded lawn .
Also, make sure the fertilizer is a straight fertilizer without any other control products.
Thank you John and Ace
Thanks TK.
Looking more like a heavy rain threat with these POTENTIAL thunderstorms rather than a severe weather threat. I would not rule out a few non severe storms across the region.
Thanks JJ. Do you think the potential thunderstorms will be widespread or more isolated in nature? Trying to figure out if I should water my lawn today since its the only day this week my town allows for my side of the street.
Hey AceMater… Welcome back and I hope you are feeling better.
The front is coming through slow so I think most of tomorrow is dry for you in eastern MA. The showers and
thunderstorms look to come into tomorrow night into Thursday. As I said earlier heavy rainfall will be the big
ticket item with these storms rather than a severe threat. I do feel the entire region will get wet at some point in
the Wednesday Thursday tiem period.
Thanks JJ. It’s good to be back
Good morning and thank you TK.
Just not impressed with parameters for Wednesday/Thursday. Models have
been all over the place and I still don’t think they have a handle on it.
I don’t see any severe threat at all. Will we get wet? I didn’t think so previously, but
now? Maybe. We shall see.
Last night Eric indicated that we could have some very heavy downpours on Thursday.
Plenty of precipitable water in the atmosphere, but will it get cranked out???
Here’s the latest CMC precipitable water from the 06Z run:
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=06&mod=gemreg&stn=PW&comp=1&run2=06&mod2=gemreg&stn2=PW&hh2=039&fixhh=1&hh=036
Note that is 50MM or 1.97 inches
Here is the meteogram with predicated ACTUAL precipitation:
http://meteocentre.com/models/get_mgram.php?stn=Boston&mod=gemreg&run=06&var=conv&lang=en&map=us
Interesting that this run shows ZERO actual precipitation.
Here is the 0Z run:
http://meteocentre.com/models/get_mgram.php?lang=en&map=us&stn=Boston&mod=gemglb&var=conv
This one shows “about” 5 mm of actual precip or 0.2 inch or so.
Good morning
Thanks tk, welcome back am
Thanks Charlie!
Thanks TK! And I also neglected to welcome Ace back. I saw some of the pics from your wedding on facebook and it looked beautiful. Here’s to many years of happiness!
Thanks Sue! We just got all the official pics in from the photographer and some of those will be going up soon too
Tk Thursday morning looks the wettest?
So far. Someone gets another round in the afternoon but it may be something that forms and then moves to the south or southwest and we dry out from the NE. Have to figure out the details on that one.
6z GFS CAPE and Lift Index Values for Wednesday. They are not that impressive but enough for CAPE and Lift for a few isolated strong storms but not seeing anything severe.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062406&time=INSTANT&var=CAPE&hour=039
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062406&time=INSTANT&var=LFTX&hour=039
Here is the 12Z NAM CAPE for THURSDAY:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062412&time=3&var=CAPE&hour=057
That is getting up there. Can post the NAM Lifted index a bit later.
It is beginning to look like Thursday is the day for more potent convection,
IF ANY.
6z GFS Lift and Cape Index Values For Thursday. Again to me same story as tomorrow not impressive lift or CAPE but enough for a few isolated strong storms.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062406&time=INSTANT&var=LFTX&hour=063
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062406&time=INSTANT&var=CAPE&hour=063
12Z NAM LIFTED INDEX for THURSDAY
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=12&mod=nam&stn=LI&comp=1&run2=12&mod2=nam&stn2=LI&hh2=048&fixhh=1&hh=054
ENERGY HELICITY INDEX FOR THURSDAY
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?mod=nam&run=12&stn=EHI&hh=054&map=na&stn2=LI&run2=12&mod2=nam&hh2=054&comp=1&fixhh=1&lang=en
Hmm, I want to see the 12Z CMC run on this and then the Euro. Thursday may have just Sprung up to be a “possible” SEVERE weather day. Will see what other runs show.
Old Salty the bullseye is right over you with the helicity values on Thursday.
Just like the winter want to see if this is the start of a trend and if other model are close to what this solution is showing or has this model run just gone bonkers.
Yup,
I agree. But it is “beginning” to look interesting for Thursday.
SPC does have there 5% which is the general thunderstorm risk areas north and west of Boston for tomorrow.
There is nothing being shown for the region on Thursday but that certainly could change.
On Nantucket today and it’s beyond glorious. Light breeze and beautiful sunshine.
hmmm
12Z GFS CAPE for Thursday evening:
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?mod=gfs&run=12&stn=CAPE&hh=060&map=na&stn2=LI&run2=12&mod2=gfs&hh2=060&comp=1&fixhh=1&lang=en
Lifted Index:
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?mod=gfs&run=12&stn=CAPE&hh=060&map=na&stn2=LI&run2=12&mod2=gfs&hh2=060&comp=1&fixhh=1&lang=en
12Z GFS Lifted Index
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?mod=gfs&run=12&stn=LI&hh=060&map=na&stn2=EHI&run2=12&mod2=gfs&hh2=060&comp=1&fixhh=1&lang=en
The bullseye with the CAPE and Lift right in and around the Boston area. Still good CAPE and Lift across the rest of SNE but the GFS and NAM 12z runs seem to have the most CAPE and Lift right around the Boston area.
Be interested to see the 12z runs of Canadian and EURO. If these model trends continue SPC in my mind will be issuing a general thunderstorm outlook or maybe even a slight risk.
The CMC is not totally ready, however, the summer meteogram is
and shows virtually NOTHING for Wednesday/Thursday. I don’t get
this disparity. The CMC hints a fireworks (pun intended) on the 7/3 and 7/4.
We shall see.
There seems to be a discrepancy between the meteogram
data and the Cape and lifted Index maps on the CMC.
Will go with the maps. Some instability for Wednesday, but
not much on Thursday as opposed to the GFS and NAM.
Oh well.
Euro=> Blah blah blah
Of course it will on the. 3rd or 4 the because everybody really needs it to be nice out as that is the biggest weekend all summer.
Actually John, it looks to be more like the 2nd.
As I stated, there was a discrepancy between the
Meteogram and the Actual maps.
That’s a long way out. We’ll monitor as it is likely to
change. I wouldn’t worry at this point.
Might be the 3rd but probably not the 4th.
A split decision for Thursday thunderstorm potential.
American models (NAM GFS) trying to cook up some thunderstorm development
Non American models (CMC EURO) saying not so fast
Precisely.
Now we wait and see.
This is the fun part waiting to see which models blink first. One thing looks certain humidity is going to be on the increase and will be felt tomorrow and Thursday.
YUP!
You would think that the American Models WOULD KNOW what is going

on in AMERICA? Wouldn’t you.
NOT necessarily.
I believe most of the showers come through late Wed night early thu am limiting severe weather.
Waters r in the mid 60’s, 70 Degrees southeast Mass
http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/dsdt/cwtg/natl.html
Will see this time if there is a little redemption for the American Models. It was a week ago when they had impressive CAPE and Lift and what looked to be a good severe weather outbreak that thankfully never materialized.
18Z NAM, still showing elevated Cape Readings of around 2,000 joules for Thursday late PM to evening:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062418&time=INSTANT&var=CAPE&hour=054
From NWS at Taunton re: Thursday
A FEW STRONG THUNDERSTORMS WITH
GUSTY WINDS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE IF ENOUGH INSTABILITY CAN DEVELOP…BUT POOR MID LEVEL LAPSE RATES/MARGINAL WIND FIELDS SHOULD PRECLUDE A SIGNIFICANT SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK.
Sudbury river that was high on its banks a couple of weeks ago has several feet of mud flats on each side.
Rivers and ponds around here r about normal for almost July
I heard on CNN today that if Massachusetts doesn’t gain at least 230,000 residents it will lose another house seat in 2020, it appears that this time we should be ok, but if something happens and the state somehow only gains 125,000 then the state will likely lose another house seat, analyst have Massachusetts house seats down to 5 or 6 by 2050. I hope not. Good day all
Very windy here.
Was windy in newton when i was visiting Mac. Windy here also but doesn’t seem as strong.
Tk what’s the timing for rain Thursday?
I’m not sure yet. Working on that. But we may get through a large portion of the day with little or no rain around.
On Wednesday or Thursday?
Wednesday? correct?
Oh he specifically asked for Thursday. Sorry, my bad.
That’s ok. I was planning to take dinner to Mac and eat on deck at rehab with him tomorrow night so am very interested in Wednesday
Hope that works out great for you.
I “think” you “may” be spared rain, but you never know. It just looks like for tomorrow, most activity is to the North and West. I hope it is OK for you.
from NWS:
ANOTHER SURGE OF MID LEVEL DRY AIR CIRCULATES SOUTH
TO NORTH IN THE ANTICYCLONIC FLOW ACROSS THE REGION. THIS WILL SUPPRESS CONVECTION WED WITH THE EXCEPTION BEING ACROSS WESTERN PORTIONS OF CT/MA INTO SOUTHWEST NH…ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE
MID LEVEL DRY AIR. HOWEVER AS STORMS EXIT NY STATE THEY SHOULD WEAKEN AS THE ENVIRONMENT BECOMES LESS FAVORABLE FOR CONVECTION
ACROSS RI AND EASTERN MA.
Wonderful. Thank you for taking time to find and post this
Thank you OS. It’ll be early so I sure hope you are right
Again, it’s New England so we can never be sure, but it “looks” OK at the moment. Always subject to change. Best of luck tomorrow.
Thanks OS.
18Z GFS Cape and Lifted Index for July 1st:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062418&time=INSTANT&var=CAPE&hour=171
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2014062418&time=INSTANT&var=LFTX&hour=171
SREF LI for Thursday:
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/gifs/2014062415/SREF_SFC_LI_f054.gif
SREF CAPE for THursday
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/gifs/2014062415/SREF_SFCCAPE_MEDIAN_MXMN__f054.gif
This is random, but I was just thinking. You know what I still have never done? Flown a kite!
Oh my. Today was a great day. We used to let them out so far it took lots of people to pull them in. There was a man on isle of palms SC years ago who flew a string of about 20 or so kites. Stunt kites are fun but simple kites are relaxing. Please post pics of your kite
Haha, I have yet to get a kite! Or to have the opportunity to fly one. When I do in fact obtain one and get the chance, it will probably be with TK, and yes I will post pictures.
I was going to say TK would be a perfect choice but somehow knew he’d be in the adventure. Please remind him he is not Ben Franklin.
Hahahaha!!!!!! Will do
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