7:22PM
Ok it may not rain everywhere on Thursday to early Friday, but the threat has presented itself, and is most pronounced for areas south of the Mass Turnpike as it stands now. This is because it looks like developing low pressure down the coast, though not very strong, will be able to drift northeastward just enough to take advantage of a slight weakness in the ridge of high pressure centered just north of New England. So the string of what looked like many days of sunshine will probably be interrupted. There is still some uncertainty as to where theΒ rain cut-off will be and just how far north it will penetrate. Computer models range from a near-miss to a decent soaking. So with varying scenarios presented to us by our man-made plug-and-chug machines, and just experience that forecasting this type of set-up is difficult, at best, a low-confidence forecast for wet weather over southeastern and eastern areas will follow this, book-ended by a dry forecast for Wednesday and the weekend. In fact, the weekend portion will feature some decent warmth advertised.
Further out but less important right now is a cold front early next week which may end up putting a premature end to the sunny/warm spell.
SOUTHEASTERN NEW ENGLAND FORECAST…
TONIGHT: Few fair-weather clouds vanish northwest sky and a few high clouds south. Lows in the 40s most areas but upper 30s deeper valleys and near 50 in urban locations. Wind light variable.
WEDNESDAY: Sunshine most of the time but some high clouds fanning in from the south while a few lower clouds drift in from the ocean. Highs in the 60s, coolest along the coast. Wind NE 5-15 MPH.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT: Increasing clouds. Lows around 50. Wind NE to E 5-15 MPH.
THURSDAY: Cloudy. Chance of rain especially afternoon favoring southern MA and RI. Highs in the 60s. Wind E 5-15 MPH.
FRIDAY: Cloudy start with a chance of rain early favoring eastern MA. Slow clearing later. Low 49. High 68.
SATURDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 44. High 77.
SUNDAY: Mostly sunny. Low 51. High 83.
MONDAY: Sunny. Low 54. High 74.
TUESDAY: Cloudy. Low 50. High 61.
Thanks TK.
Thanks TK!
Interesting high temperature month (Sept) going at Logan
90+ : 3
80s : 5
70s : 7
60s : 7 (of which 6 came consecutively).
50s : 1
Thanks Tom. Very interesting
It was evidently a very dry autumn last year as well. Sept 2013 was -1.23 inches below normal and October 2013, a whopping -3.33 inches below normal. Logan TOTALED 0.61 inches for the whole month.
Will be interesting to see how this autumn plays out, but the last 6-8 weeks have certainly led us into a new season fairly dry.
All data from Taunton NWS climate section.
Last autumn, the last 80F day at Logan occurred on October 2nd (82F) and the last 70F day occurred November 1st (72F).
Thanks Tom. Very interesting.
Sure thing …. I guess I’m in a data mood tonight. Must be getting ready for MCAS analysis. π π
Previous autumns to that, last 80F day at Logan ….
2012 : September 14th !!!!
2011 : October 10th
2010 : October 1st
2009 : September 24th.
I remember last year being dry too. I tried to communicate the fact we were seriously dry but was laughed at by some.
Turns out, it was true. Oh well. Laughter in the name of falsity. I guess it happens. π
Not by the one who kept saying the rivers out here were too low. I do remember some doubters.
I think it was the drought you were predicting that had people chuckle. I think we have had two abnormal dry spells in the last two years but I could be wrong. I thought last summer was one that I did not have to mow as often.
But during much of that time Boston was actually in a drought zone on the drought monitor maps. The drought actually verified, minor as it was.
What has me concerned is the next round may be more than minor…
Thanks tk, I’m seeing 1-2 inches south and east of Boston and Providence, sharp cut off as you go north and west, I also can’t believe how fast times flying and next week is Oct. I’ve got 4 weeks of Fall Aeration overseedings left, then 4 weeks of Late Fall Fertilizers and then deep root feedings for ornamentals till about 2nd-3rd week of Dec, and then we r done, and then start back up in 12 weeks with Lime. The rain will really help the lawns recover from summer stress. Good night π
I just flew in from New York and boy are my arms tired…
Hello……Hello……Is this thing on?
Are you talking about the possible rain event Thursday night Coastal ….
If so, my guess is that our general south shore area has a better chance of little or very little precip totals versus something appreciable.
My guess is that a sharp cutoff in precip amounts will end up south and east of us.
Blue Hill and Worcester are both 53F, summit of Mt. Washington is 41F.
The airmass is beginning to warm up.
East win WILL NEGATE that. π
To Rain or Not to Rain, that is the question.
If we remain in the current rut, in it will be a near miss. Else perhaps we get some
much needed rain.
I wonder if models will converge on the correct solution today?
Both the 06Z NAM and the 06Z GFS now bring rain into the area, with the NAM
showing somewhat less precipitation. IF they both show rain with the 12Z run, then it’s still not a lock, but sure looking good.
I would hope the models would start to converge since the event is tomorrow, lol
You’d think. It would not surprise me to see 12Z runs
take it “just a bit outside”. π
WPC saying around an inch for Boston
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p120i.gif
Hmmm, interesting.
We shall see.
And here is the 0Z CMC
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2014092400/gem_apcpn_eus_12.png
Interested to see IF this changes with the 12Z run
GFS
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2014092406/gfs_apcpn_eus_12.png
Gee, I wonder which model the WPC is using?????
Yikes, and the 06Z no less
Hi Res GFS from Matty Noyes
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/1094747_853519618000923_1355001179478944894_o.jpg
I saw that. It’s going to be TIGHT.
SO much reminds me of Winter close calls. π π π
12Z NAM wants to DELIVER!
Sorry, my mistake. I’m having mouse control issues Or a senior moment.
That was the 06Z GFS.
12Z NAM is SLOOOOW to bring precipitation Nortward. Looks like a really SHARP cutoff.
AS of 8PM tomorrow, the 12Z NAM has precip stalled at the CT/RI/MA state line.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2014092412&var=PCPPRSTMP_2m&hour=036
12Z NAM MOST Northern extent of the rain tomorrow:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2014092412&var=PCPPRSTMP_2m&hour=042
From “just” South of Boston Northward looks to remain DRY, IF the 12Z NAM
were to verify.
Judging by models my thoughts still at 1-2 inches of rain during tommorrow afternoon, the rain shield won’t make it much further north than the mass pike later Thursday evening briefly before going back out to sea, good day everyone π
1-2 inches? Really?
I don’t think so.
Even the NWS said .5 to .75 inches in SE areas.
NOTING THE SLUG OF HEAVIER
QPF REMAINS GENERALLY ACROSS E CT/RI/SE MA DURING THE NIGHT. COULD
SEE 0.5 TO 0.75 INCHES OF RAINFALL DURING THIS
TIMEFRAME…HEAVIEST ACROSS CAPE COD AND THE ISLANDS.
Will see π
This close to an event, I am Comfortable with the NAM
AND it is consistent with the usually pretty reliable
CMC.
We shall see what the 12Z CMC has to say.
My Guess…it will agree with the NAM.
Well, 12Z CMC is in:
CMC-RDPS a.k.a. GEM-REG / North America (mesh: 10 km
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=12&mod=gemreg&stn=PNMPR&comp=1&run2=12&mod2=gemreg&stn2=PNMPR&hh2=036&fixhh=1&hh=033
So it looks to be in agreement with the GFS
and the NAM looks to be out to lunch.
24 hours out and the models can’t agree!!!!
Meteogram doesn’t show all that much rain though:
http://meteocentre.com/models/get_mgram.php?stn=Boston&mod=gemreg&run=12&var=std&lang=en&map=us
I am wondering if this is going to be the typical theme of the upcoming winter with lows down the coast bringing the Mid-Atlantic big time snows with SHARP CUTOFFS here in SNE. I have outdoor plans for tomorrow evening so I personally hope it doesn’t rain here in Boston this time around.
Good Luck OS…I have a feeling it’s going to be one frustrating winter at times to say the least, lol. Keep us posted as always! π
Philip,
I really don’t care one way or the other, however, we do have dinner plans, so for my wife’s sake, I’m with you. I hope the rain stays to the South.
We shall see. π
One thing about the GFS (and my interpretation could be wrong), but I think, as the rain makes its most northerly approach, its also about that time that the rain shield seems to be taking a big right hand turn. Interesting to see which one wins …. the northward push or the eastward turn.
Well one thing for sure, IF it were Winter, the EASTWARD turn would WIN.
No doubt about it. However, since it is late September, I honestly don’t know.
Probably a compromise. π
LOL … no kidding. π
I think a locale like Taunton could receive 1.25, and Woburn only receive .10, we shall see π
This may very well be the case. These smaller systems tend to do this kind of thing.
12Z GFS total Precip 72 hours
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?fhr=072&image=data%2Fgfs%2F12%2Fgfs_namer_072_precip_ptot.gif&model=gfs&area=namer¶m=precip_ptot&group=Model+Guidance&preselected_formatted_cycle_date=20140924+12+UTC&imageSize=M&ps=area
12Z NAM total PRecip
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?fhr=072&image=data%2Fnam%2F12%2Fnam_namer_072_precip_ptot.gif&model=nam&area=namer¶m=precip_ptot&group=Model+Guidance&preselected_formatted_cycle_date=20140924+12+UTC&imageSize=M&ps=area
12Z CMC (GEM) 72 hours
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2014092412/gem_apcpn_eus_12.png
Hmmm, looks like the GFS still wants to give us more than other models
What does the Euro have to say about all this? Or is that model pretty much rendered useless at this point, lol
Don’t know. I cancelled my Subscription.
It wasn’t worth the money. The summer severe parameters
SUCKED. When the NAM and GFS had Capes exceeding 3,000, Euro had 1,000 – 1,500. Didn’t even have Lifted Index.
I’ll deal with what I can get for free. Of course, I might be
tempted to re-up come December. π
Not sure you can tell much from this:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF/2014092412/USA_PRMSL_msl_048.gif
Same ole same ole.
Looks like it would have a sharp cut off. Can’t tell from this
IF it makes it to Boston or not.
IF Hadi still has the Accu Weather Euro, perhaps he could chime in???
Here is something interesting from the NWS: (3 out 4 isn’t bad)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10653813_685380528222988_6932236778127794057_n.jpg?oh=419fbedf091b41f68d2f99f33014588e&oe=54C5304D&__gda__=1418720401_aeaaa45e25d06121636643df7c0ede7d
And the WINNER IS???????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Isn’t the NAM supposed to overcook precip???
I cxl my subscription for summer βοΈβοΈβοΈ
Good thing its not a cable subscription or cell phone contract π
The NAM used to overcook. Not so much anymore.
The GFS is now the overcooker, in most cases.
Roll reversal. Funny what changes and upgrades will do.
Last night one of the models predicted 8 inches of rain for Block Island from the coming system. I forget which one.
I can see somewhere near the South Coast getting over an inch while just north of Boston gets nothing out of this.
Thanks TK. Ok let’s pretend it’s Winter.
TK, please outline the FINAL RAIN/SNOW LINE.
Err I mean RAIN LINE. π
Somewhere near the MA/NH border but most areas north of the Pike get under 0.25 inch.
Thank you.
CPC…
Warm & dry 6-10.
Warm & a little wetter 8-14.
Really, Really interesting take on the Pat’s O-line from Christian Fauria:
http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2014/09/24/christian-fauria-on-dave-deguglielmo-there-are-some-issues-with-the-his-personality-theres-some-issues-with-the-way-he-coaches-patriots-o-line/
I think he HAS HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. This is GOOD STUFF!!!!
Interesting stuff. I heard his analysis live and i dont agree. Bottom line, its on the players. These guys are getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. If they dont like the new o-line coach, tough. They need to man up and play like pros. And the part about Volmer and Solder were always good and are suddenly bad, really? How do we really know about Volmer? He’s been off and on hurt with a bad back. Solder has always been shaky especially against stronger d-lineman with lower centers of gravity. Hes a tall slow clunky guy who struggles with his balance and athletism. The o-line had issues last year too and has been steadily declining. Similar stats for sacks, hurries, and knockdowns this year as last year at this time.
Agree or not, I just found it interesting. Something is going on and in my opinion, this is the best answer I have seen. I have heard other rumblings. Just makes sense to me.
No Matter what, they BEST get their act together.
And they’d better well start winning π
I think christian is way off on a lot of stuff IMO π
My SIL does agree. I just got a welcome earful on zone play, man to man, 3-4 and 4-3. He believes in many cases the coaches do not utilize their talent. Revis for example. If they design plays that do not utilize talent, it makes sense that the talent can’t perform as it should. Good link OS
Apparently the current radar in its placement of the rains is further west and inland down in the south and mid-atlantic than most models were showing. Might mean more rain for us?
I know we’re not even near peak foliage here but im seeing an awful lot of color up and down I-95
So weird, still 80% green in na
Just drove down 95 from walpole to NA and noticed the color on the sides of the highway. Not like peak color or anything but a little bit more than 20% color IMO
Years ago I used to frequently commute back and forth to Plainville on 95 and I always thought the colors on the side of the road were absolutely spectacular. I can only imagine what the colors must have been like in the previous years before the interstate was built. π
There is very little, if any color here in Boston. Usually by now even at this early date, there is quite a bit of good spotty color. It is still pretty much just as green as there was back in July & August.
Color depends on many things…
First and foremost: amount of daylight (this is a constant from year to year).
Other things: overall pattern (temp/rainfall), AND it has a lot to do with the types of trees in the region. That’s why some areas will have early color while others little or none.
Does an increase in greenhouse gasses and pollution closer to city centers have an effect?
Probably not. Any change in gasses is minimal as far as trees are concerned, and if anything there is probably less pollution around cities now versus 25 years ago.
I picked up my new truck today and have no idea how to work half the stuff it came with. What happened to needle dials and a compass?
I wanna know what happened to manual window cranks
Lol I had window cranks as a kid, once u get automatic windows u never go back π
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My FIL refused to have electric windows until the day he died. Said if there were an emergency they would short and you’d be stuck
Congrats coastal
Thanks!
18Z NAM hold course. Rain stops South of Boston.
72 hour total precip:
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?fhr=072&image=data%2Fnam%2F18%2Fnam_namer_072_precip_ptot.gif&model=nam&area=namer¶m=precip_ptot&group=Model+Guidance&preselected_formatted_cycle_date=20140924+18+UTC&imageSize=M&ps=model
18Z GFS total precip. hmmm beginning to BACK OFF.
http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?fhr=072&image=data%2Fgfs%2F18%2Fgfs_namer_072_precip_ptot.gif&model=gfs&area=namer¶m=precip_ptot&group=Model+Guidance&preselected_formatted_cycle_date=20140924+18+UTC&imageSize=M&ps=model
Have we seen this before …. Its like groundhog day. π
If tomorrow was “December” 25th, we would probably be missing some big Mid-Atlantic snows. I have a bad feeling that will be much of our upcoming winter if TK’s thoughts of below normal snowfall verifies.
Well three months from tonight Santa will be in the air π
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18Z CMC-RDPS a.k.a. GEM-REG / North America (mesh: 10 km)
http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=18&mod=gemreg&stn=PNMPR&comp=1&run2=18&mod2=gemreg&stn2=PNMPR&hh2=027&fixhh=1&hh=030
http://meteocentre.com/models/get_accum.php?mod=gemreg&run=18&type=PR&lang=en&map=na
http://meteocentre.com/models/get_accum.php?lang=en&map=qc&run=18&mod=gemreg&hi=000&hf=120&type=PR
18Z BTV 4km WRF keeps rain South of Boston.
FIM 72 hour precip:
http://fim.noaa.gov/FIM/for_web/fim9_jet/2014092412/130/totp_sfc_f072.png
Look to the east now. The sunrise is dark purple!
I’ll take .25″ to .5″ of rain when it was forecasted to be sunny today at the beginning of the week.
Lets hope !!
BB has 82F, 86F and 80F for Saturday, Sunday and Monday.
Whats the chances someone takes a run at 90F ? Especially Boston points north and west if they dont get any rain tonight or Friday and the top layer of ground remains dry.
Blog updated!
Good day all!