11:32AM
SUMMARY…
Time to focus on the well-advertised long-duration snow event. The set-up has been described in previous entries but let’s review quickly. An arctic cold front settles southward across southern New England today and then sits just off the South Coast for the rest of the weekend as a couple waves of low pressure ride along it, producing periods of snow, first very patchy and light this afternoon then a little more so tonight and Sunday, then with the most widespread precipitation coming Sunday night and Monday as a final and slightly stronger wave of low pressure moves along the front. This final wave may come a little bit closer, enough to introduce mixed precipitation to South Coastal locations, but at this time I don’t see any mix coming further north than that as the cold air will be a stronger force, aided by a deep snow cover across just about all of southern New England. Snow amounts from the entire episode are about to be listed below and I will try to re-visit them by time period in the forecast that follows this summary. It’s important to note that there can be large variations in snowfall across the region, not only due to the somewhat disorganized nature of the precipitation associated with these disturbances, but also due to ocean-enhancement which will likely be a factor near the eastern coastal areas of MA and NH, and then the mix factor possibly being involved near the South Coast later in the event. ***TOTAL ACCUMULATION EXPECTED FOR EVENT FROM START TO FINISH: 2-4 inches immediate South Coast, 4-8 inches just away from South Coast from central RI eastward across Upper Cape Cod, and 8-16 inches elsewhere, and spotty amounts above 16 inches are likely along east coastal MA and NH as well as a few towns on eastern slopes of higher hills. There are some signs that the entire event may try to wrap up a bit earlier than previously though, but for now will leave the chance of snow showers in eastern NH and MA into Tuesday morning especially Cape Cod due to cold north wind over relatively warmer water behind the intensifying final low pressure wave. A quick “break” comes later Tuesday and Wednesday as a narrow high pressure area moves in, though it will be fairly cold but not frigid. A clipper low pressure system and attendant Arctic front comes through the region next Thursday with a minor snow event, but opens the door for a major cold blast to end the week.
SOUTHEASTERN NEW ENGLAND FORECAST…
TODAY: Clouding up. Patchy light snow possible this afternoon with less than 1 inch accumulation. Highs 25-30 southern NH and northern MA, 30-35 to the south, then falling slowly during the afternoon. Wind light SW shifting to NW then N from north to south across the region.
TONIGHT & SUNDAY: Overcast. Periods of snow, mostly light to moderate. Accumulation 2 to 6 inches through this period with locally heavier possible in parts of northeastern MA and southeastern NH, and areas of below 2 inches closer to the South Coast. Temperatures nearly steady from 15-20 southern NH to near 30 South Coast. Wind NE to E 5-15 MPH.
SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT: Overcast. Steadier snow, mostly light to moderate with a few heavier bands favoring east coastal areas of MA and NH. Additional accumulation of 2 to 8 inches from south to north with locally heavier possible in parts of northeastern MA and southeastern NH. Also, sleet/ice/rain mixing near the South Coast at times. Temperatures nearly steady ranging from the upper 10s northern MA and southern NH to lower 30s South Coast. Wind NE to E 5-15 MPH, higher gusts, later Monday, shifting more to the NE and N Monday night.
TUESDAY: Early snow showers especially eastern areas otherwise clearing. Breezy. Highs in the 20s.
WEDNESDAY: Sunny. Low 15. High 25.
THURSDAY: Cloudy. Snow or snow showers. Low 20. High 30.
FRIDAY: Sunny and windy. Low -5. High 10.
Serenity now!
LOVE that episode.
Excellent work TK !
Fine, misty like snow falling in Marshfield.
Thanks TK!
Very light snow here in Quincy.
Made a quick edit as I left out the line about the mixing in the forecast part. Oops. And I had to add the word “immediate” before South Coast in the accumulation section because I really do think that you won’t have to move too far away from the South Coast by the end of the event to have 4+ and go up from there as you head north. The gradient has the potential to be quite sharp there because of some mixing and even somewhat less precipitation for part of the event.
I am out. No snow yet.
Grocery stores not bad.
Whole foods and roche bros.
I am very pleased and surprised.
Maybe public had no clue how bad its going to be
It’s actually not going to be that bad, compared to the previous 2 events, and people probably still have enough supplies for the rest of this Winter AND next Winter from over-preparing for the last 2 storms. So the stores shouldn’t be that bad today. 🙂
Thanks Tk
No problem. Rest up today if you can and be safe when you are out there. You’ll find this much easier to deal with in terms of snow rates compared to the previous 2 bigger events, just long-duration and of course space issues with existing snow banks.
Thanks TK! Happy to hear that you are feeling better.
Snowing at a light to at times moderate clip outside my window. A nice coating so far.
That was the only place it had a chance during the daylight, from the CT/MA border southward.
Very light snow Sudbury.
MJO has been between phases 7 and 8 which are snow phases for this area (no surprise) since late January. MJO is forecast to mill around in phase 8 and head into phase 1 (also a snow phase) through February 21.
I think the forecast of a snowy February is already an understatement given what has taken place already and what is coming up now. 😛
I do think our threats of the big events start to drop off as we head beyond next weekend but the snowy pattern overall is not done yet. One thing I am missing big time so far this month (based on my November forecast) is the temps. Adjusted that of course heading into late January as we talked about on the blog, knowing that it would be a colder pattern contrary to the original forecast. So the cold wins out this Winter, despite the mild December, if you include November as part of the overall Winter season. 🙂
So, NWS radar shows dark green echoes over me (moderate) yet I have a few fine flakes falling and visibility from the top of my hill of 10+ miles (I can see the buildings of Boston). Dry air is certainly in place and gobbling up the snow as it falls. And the upstream radar echoes are diminishing. That solidifies the forecast of “not much during the daylight hours” for today. 😀
Could the dry air win out tonight slowing down the acumlitaion to say tomorrow.
John my friend – it feels like you’re asking TK to be a fortune teller! 😀
It will limit things today. It’s doing that now. But only so long until you moisten up that atmosphere enough to overcome it, especially with the lack of additional dry air pushing down. Increasing fetch off the water with time…… you know what that means.
First flakes here in thee City. 😀
12Z GFS snow map. Still on target for a dump
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2015020712&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=072
And what saves us from even more, it has the final low moving SE out into the ocean
While the impacts will be drawn out and probably not horrible for travelers, keep in mind that this is going to be difficult for the sand and plow truck drivers. Long stretches of work, short rest periods between rounds.
Those guys and gals will be very tired come Tuesday morning. Be sure to give them extra space to work and to give them a break if things aren’t done perfectly.
They don’t want to be dealing with this stuff at this point any more than the rest of the public.
If you get a chance, thank your local plow driver. You’d be surprised how just a little recognition goes a long way in keeping them going.
OK, stepping down from soapbox now.
🙂
12Z GFS shows a BIG DUMP OF SNOW for the 13th.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2015020712&time=48&var=ASNOWI&hour=153
12Z CMC snow map for this event
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gem/2015020712/gem_asnow_eus_14.png
just waiting on the Euro. All systems are a GO for a DUMP!
OS – What are your feelings for the Sunday Night/Monday Impact?
Bad news. That’s what I think.
Snowing in south end
Steady non accumulating snow here for the past hour.
Here is where?
Sharon
Thanks
Snowing more than I thought it would this early.
Not sure what you mean. Periods of light snow were in the forecast.
Steady light snow in Westwood. Looks like the dry air is being gobbled up 😉
Not really.
Snow has stopped where I am. Left a coating.
Out for some errands and its snowing pretty good in Danvers…just starting to stick
Large lazy flakes…a slight dusting here in Hingham. Very pretty out there.
12z Euro looks about the same as it has… 10-14″ for all of MA except the Cape, on a 10:1 ratio. QPF about 1-1.25 inches.
Newton: Light, steady snow; parked cars beginning to show a coating.
This first batch of steadier snow just about through. More scattered snow showers behind it.
I like Keith’s description ❄️❄️❄️
Barely a coating here and all but stopped for now
Out and about again.
Steady light snow, occasionally bordering
On moderate. In poor signal area. Radar would
Not load
on and off light snow, no accumulation yet, but been steady light to a few bursts of moderate, coatings on the cars. I believe its more to do with the fact that snow is blowing off of the marsh. I can see light bans of snow coming from the marsh while my friend just down the street has not seen a single snowflake.
Euro at 1.19 for Boston.
Thanks, Hadi
Hadi, does most of that fall on Monday?
Yes Monday into early Tuesday.
The next batch way up in Ontario looks to move into central NE for later tonight.
Home now. A flake or 2 here and there is all falling from the sky.
To Hadi,
Sent you an email just now.
Winter Storm Warning up yet again for much of SNE. I’ll be interested in the new accumulation map they’ll put out later. The warning mentions a possibility of an 18-24″ band from Boston to Bedford, Beverly, and Lawrence.
* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS…12 TO 18 INCHES THROUGH LATE MONDAY NIGHT. A LOCALIZED BAND OF 18 TO 24 INCHES OF SNOW IS POSSIBLE NEAR THE BOSTON…TO BEDFORD…TO BEVERLY AND LAWRENCE CORRIDORS IN NORTHEAST MASSACHUSETTS THROUGH LATE MONDAY NIGHT.
Hmmm right out of the NAM???? Gfs to a certain extent also.
Dave Epstein @growingwisdom 3m3 minutes ago
Winter storm warnings in place for areas in pink. This is for likelihood of 6 inches or more through Tuesday AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9RF97VIQAAcRUk.png
I don’t know if there is an answer for this but why have all the storms been such big snow producers when all is said in done. This will be the third Monday in a row with a significant snow storm.
Just the way everything lined up. It’s just weather John.
Pretty amazing just the same!
Just the pattern. Doesn’t happen that often, but it’s happened before and will again.
Albany RADAR beginning to FILL IN! It’s coming!
18Z NAM snow map
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2015020718&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=084
One thing to NOTE regarding the NAM.
at the end of the period it has a last low developing. 500mb looks juicy and wants to
take it up here, however, 200 MB is more West to East forcing it out S&E East of here.
IF and I say IF that were to change and the system got up here, the totals ONLY go up.
Here is the NWS snow map. WOW
http://www.weather.gov/box/stormtotalsnow
YIKES!!! That is an IMPRESSIVE SNOW MAP, to say the least! WOW!!!
To think, how many of those maps have we had so far!
https://merrimackvalleyweather.wordpress.com
in the blue area in the northeast could see up to 2 feet.
that was my map from yesterday with no changes to it today and here is the national weather service
http://www.weather.gov/box/stormtotalsnow
Being out and about today, people are already wondering “where is the snow?” and expecting the entire amount (which in some cases is being over-forecast) to be on the ground before the event really gets going. Called that, not that it was hard to do. 😛
They also seem to be we’re about to be in for a blizzard or a storm like Monday with lots of wind and blowing snow. Nope. Plentiful snow producer for a good part of the region, especially the ocean-enhanced areas, but that’s about it. Media is quite successful at programming the general public’s minds. 😉
Do u think the NWS snowmap is overdone?
On the larger scale, yes.
I think their max amounts can occur in a few areas, but I do not think they will be that widespread. They are depending a WHOLE LOT on the ocean for this, and to be honest with you the ocean can be almost as tricky as a norlun trough.
Media may be part to blame but I think minds have a mind of their own, if you will. I’ve said same to several folks who, for whatever reason, prefer to be in “we are in for a massive blizzard” mode
My reaction from people was actually the opposite. I heard many 2-4 inches, not a big deal discussions. We should probably get those folks to meet somewhere halfway!
I do think the impact will be felt on a large scale in the city. Public transportation will most likely be heavily effected, and businesses will be faced with tough decisions. After last Monday’s storm, where many traveled to work and back in hazardous conditions, id imagine employers will be thinking twice about this one.
This will all but shut down the city, especially IF the high end
verifies.
I had mentioned yesterday I think and not sure if I got an answer. Is the wild card in this entire event being on whether ocean enhanced snow takes place?
It’s a WILD CARD for the larger totals for sure.
Is this POSSIBLE? 2M temperatures (F) for 12z on the 17th. UNFREAKIN BELIEVABLE!!!!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9RYJM2CcAAiAyp.png:large
I think that image was part of a fb post somewhere mentioning the new GFS has had a cold bias for 2m temps once they get to down to a certain point. The GFS has been showing impressive cold but my understanding its overdone. It will be cold but the Boston record low is safe
JMA and Tk seem to think it’s going to be quite cold here next weekend I believe JMA showed some concern for this yesterday.
Very cold yes, but just pointing out a bias in the new GFS and Boston;s record low of -18 most likely wont be touched
That’s not good.
18Z SNOW MAP for this event
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2015020718&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=084
NortheastWeatherHQ retweeted
Jeff Smith @JeffSmithABC7 4m4 minutes ago
@NEweatherHQ I think the 00Zs will be very telling since the piece of energy will be fully onshore in the Pacific NW (well sampled data)
Wankum has jackpot area north of Boston. 10-14 in the Boston area and a good swath of South shore.
and you believe anything that guys says?
Agree completely about him… I’m sure he’s a nice guy, but….
He has the WORST presentation style of any weather person I have ever seen. Like he’s talking to a Kindergarten class.
Or even like Buffalo Bob Smith on Howdy Doody.
“Say kids, what time is it?”
http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/howdy-doody.htm
Yes I do. The entire ch5 weather team is top notch.
IT starts and ends with HARVEY!!!
FWIW, the GFS still wants to NAIL us on the 13th with another foot of snow.
WOW!
Been pretty consistent on this. We shall see.
On everything except the date: 16, 14, 15, 12, 13. It can’t decide which system is dominant. Then it picks one and can’t quite place it. But there’s lots of time. Neither one will likely be a major snow producer though. Upper low may be driving SE way too fast for that.
Pretty scary that it keeps showing up. Don’t need that at this
point.
The GFS has that system developing like that one a couple weeks ago that we thought was going to nail us but didn’t develop in time.
Let us hope, but it’s now less than a week.
Has me nervous.
Gotta get through this one first.
There’s suposly a clipper on the 12th.
Too much uncertainty with that one. The forecast above is low confidence regarding that part of the week.
18Z RGEM through 1PM Monday. Still action to go
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/rgem/2015020718/rgem_asnow_us_16.png
If that doesn’t show coastal enhancement, I don’t know what does. 😀 😀
NAM 4KM snowmap up through 6Z on Tuesday
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/nam4km/2015020718/nam4km_asnow_us_21.png
again coastal enhancement very evident.
Composite radars are lighting up. Activity up there, destined to reach the ground
soon.
What time would you guess it hits Boston.
Just started back up out here OS
Where are you.
Holden
Starting to flake again here as well
Front still hasnt made it through
http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/CustomGraphic/sfcmap.gif
My florist thinks that it snows every year just before Valentines Day so I’m going for the13th for our next storm.
It doesn’t, but it probably will this time. 😉
Pete has 14-20 for Boston. And I believe he is correct at the HIGH end.
He dips that 14-20 mark too far south into interior SE MA IMO.
Perhaps! (I’m admittedly a bit focused on my own area, which is the south end in the city). It will all depend on the strength of that ocean effect.
People have been talking about GFS consistency. Well one thing it has been consistent about over several runs now is a decent rainstorm on Monday Feb 23.
Hopefully that will wash it all awayyyy!!!
And everything in the City along with it.
We don’t need no stinken rain at this point. What we need
is a slow/steady melt. Say temps in the low to mid 40s and just let
it go ever so slowly. No 50s or 60s, thats too much. No heavy rain either. A light rain would be fine.
Snowing lightly here again. Wife and I are headed to see a movie in a bit.
“Black or White”. Looks great. By the time we decided, the only place we could get
tickets was Randolph. (we could have at Dedham, but show is too late at 10:35) Oh well it’s not too far and I’m not concerned about this wimpy snow. 😀
I’m seeing some indications of a pattern shift 10 to 15 days from now, with daytime highs in the mid 40s to low 50s a distinct possibility. We’ll need it at that point to wash away some of the snow. This won’t mean, of course, that March will be meek and mild. But, I think the last week to 10 days of February will be.
Lean toward the 15. They usually happen later than advertised especially if you see it on GFS. But other models are not immune to the early shift issue too.
Been of the opinion of a change around the ~25th. Mostly because I tend to have a bias towards slowing down pattern shifts but I could see that change being closer to the 20th than the 25th. How about it being ushered in with a soaking rain on or about the 23rd?
That’s my concern. GFS was consistent for a really long time with the February 2 snow (and had it first). It’s doing the same thing with that rain system.
Ideally, and it goes without saying, several mild and mainly dry days would work out best with a gradual melt especially off roofs and having time to get storm drains open. Not sure if we’ll be granted that wish.
Gil Simmons NEWS8 CT @gilsimmons 1m1 minute ago
Snow coming through the state midnight through 4/5 AM. Dusting to 1.5″ for most with some 2″ or maybe 3″ totals near the Mass. line.
I like Pete’s snowfall map and that of the NWS. I can’t believe I’m actually saying that because I tend to take both sources with a grain of salt; however, this is how I envision the event to unfold. Widespread 12-18 inches with isolated 2 ft amounts!
Almost feels dirty to like Petes map, doesn’t it?!?! 😉
Almost feels sad that those who criticize him don’t understand he is right more often than not….. 😈
I know I know I know.
i agree vicki!!
😀
Ha ha. I will say this. I’ve watched Pete for a very long time. He has had a good year.
You had to eat turkey last year too …..
Actually I don’t get the criticism of any mets on here. It’s what the folks on the BZ blogs do. But then it is just my opinion and I know comes as no surprise to anyone. 🙂
Gil Simmons NEWS8 CT @gilsimmons 12m12 minutes ago
We need to watch Thursday’s low pressure center and then unbelievable cold next weekend. Raw guidance showing -20 temps possible in CT!
I wonder if the cooked guidance will still show that. 😉
😆
🙂
Still think the next covering starts after 9PM in the Boston area, in fact probably after 10.
TK what can we expect to wake up to tomorrow and when does it start getting bad?
HRRR drops 3-4 inches on Boston by 8AM.
It’s only one model, but that’s what it shows.
😀
Ain’t gonna happen but I wish 😀
What’s not going to happen arod
Dave Epstein @growingwisdom 8m8 minutes ago
Notice predicted snowfall through 9AM. Focal point is along front. This general pattern continues through storm.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9SJEvMIUAAwuTr.png
We get a fairly slow 3-6 inches during the day tomorrow, steadiest in the morning, but we have to keep an eye on the coastal band that may set up.
Cool animation of the dynamic tropopouse depicting the origin of the cold in
Greenland.
http://weather.graphics/gfs_2015020718_dyntrop_noram.gif
Oooooo. That IS fun!!
Had not logged on to WBZ comment section in a while, and today I was again reminded why.
I can’t tell you how thankful I am to be a member of such an awesome weather blog – WHW!!! You guy and gals are the best!
Anyone heading out tonight, Be Safe! It doesn’t take much to make the roads slippery and the snow banks are downright dangerous!!
Thanks Shotime. You be safe as well!
The main troll there refers to this as the “elitist’s blog”. I always thought that was kind of funny. 🙂
I don’t mind it. LOL 😉
I haven’t been there in forever either. I don’t recognize names. Didn’t read comments
Elite means “the absolute best”.
looking at the patriots road games compared to home games.
Home games should be much easier to win than the away games.
If we get little or no melting before a rainstorm that would be an epic disaster for many. Let’s hope that doesn’t come to fruition.
That would create major roof collapses.
knock on wood!!
Wow. More than worrisome
I saw channel five is already posting on Facebook about the possibility of more snow on Thursday. How bout we get through this one first?!?!
How about we man the hair dryers 🙂
0z NAM in for plenty, mostly coming Sunday night into Monday. Still running.
I’m sure SOMEONE will say precip is overdone…on all models. 🙂
I personally still think Nam is slightly too north. But it’s getting the idea.
Nam has 20-24 for Boston north to NH border. Lines up well with GFS, maybe slightly less. We shall see!
Nah. They’re all underdone. We’re gonna have 6 to 12 feet. 😛
Any idea when you can narrow it down a tad more 😉
Hehehe
lol 😀
Pete B moved the higher totals further south.
Tell him to move them back north. I am all set. 🙂
🙂
Hehehehe.
Dave Epstein tweet.
@growingwisdom: It would not surprise me if driving is banned in Boston after the two days of snow is over.
Getting a bit greasy out there on the roads …..
Portland, ME has a light N wind.
The best pressure rises seem to be in Maine …..
I dont know if I fully agree with the idea of a coastal front, where its 30F along the shore and 18F inland tomorrow.
I wonder if this arctic front is going to behave like a backdoor cold front tomorrow, where its 15F at Logan tomorrow afternoon and milder as you get into southwestern New England.
Wow Pete increased totals inside 128 big time now up to 20-24.
I think Pete and others are using high res short range guidance.
Was out. Went into movie at Randolph, not snowing. Came out at 11:30PM snowing hard.
Roads were a MESS all the way home. NO SALT TRUCKS OUT AT ALL.
Snow let up a bit. Watched TV going to bed now. SNOWING HARD again. About 2 inches so far.
Later…
EURO now also taking clipper, later this week, south of New England ……
Go with the GFS. Been tough to beat lately
A steady, light snow falling ….. 2.5 inches new.
Portland, ME : 15F ….. Albany, NY : 13F.
Mid 20s in both spots 6 hours ago.
Just getting up now. Looks like 3.5″ so far.
About 2 inches so far here.
Just did the math. 68.4″ at my house since and including Jan. 24th and including so far this morning. That’s nuts.
Tom,
What’s the Euro & GFS look like for Thursday? You say they are south of here but do you mean their OTS or a hit?
Don’t know about EURO but the gfs does not show a miss… But TK mentioned gfs has difficulty with placement on these types of systems.
Hey even a broken clock is right twice a day…let’s hope for a miss this time!
Believe me, I am!
Morning all.
No surprises so far.
About 3 inches in Woburn to this point.
TK any decent lulls today or no?
I would say I have gotten close to an inch so far in what I am calling appetizer snow. Main course overnight and tomorrow.
I did a real measurement and we are at 3 inches on the dot so far. Logan already at 3.7.
Makes sense. Last night’s batch delivered pretty well, but about as expected.
If the latest run of the GFS is correct for late week Insult to Injury. Boston area once again the jackpot.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2015020806&time=48&var=ASNOWI&hour=132
Snowing lightly in Sudbury now. We have 3 inches of snow and they just started plowing our parking lot! Didn’t hear plows all night.
I hear what sounds like a phoebe singing outside. I am hoping that the animals are ok outside – this has been and continues to be a bad winter.
Don’t know if anyone posted this info. yet, but on NECN this morning they said Kansas(I think they said Kansas) was 82 degrees yesterday. And the west coast of the US is getting heavy rains. The weather is getting kind of scary. Maybe it’s happened before in history, but it still is rough.
82F …… That sounds great !
🙂
Rainshine I was pretty sure I heard a phoebe the other morning also. I cannot get to my feeders and also hope they are ok.
Brother in law lives just east of San Francisco. When we spoke to him a couple of days ago they were expecting double digits of rain. It is their rainy season but all at once will cause problems.
Hi Rainshine!
This particular pattern has happened many times, actually. We happen to be in the core of the snowiest and some of the coldest this time around.
This one is driven by a particularly strong and somewhat stable pattern of teleconnecting negative height anomalies from Siberia across Greenland and right through eastern Canada to here. The most direct route possible. More often our cold snaps are taking a little longer route through western and central Canada and arriving via the Great Lakes.
The West Coast rains were foreseen for a while and is a variation on the “pineapple express”.
The anomalous warmth in the center of the country is nothing more than a response to the anomalous cold here in the Northeast.
These days, we are made hyper-aware of every detail in every location via mainstream and internet media sources that exist in excess. This didn’t happen in many previous decades when the same things were going on with just different little details here and there.
Thanks DS
Tj, looks like the EURO has the system in about the same position as the GFS, just south of New England. Yesterday, it had it passing to our N and W.
What the hek happen to this 4 day snowstorm? Lol
We have not even gotten a quarter of an inch so far, heading to Patriot place for breakfast, all have a great day 🙂
We got about 1/4″ yesterday. Woke up to 2″ here this morning, I assume Foxboro is about the same as I’m about 3 miles from patriot place.
Im pretty sure the Charlie hole travels with him. Kind of like a bubble.
LOL
Earlier comment by TK…
“-Less than 6 inches of new snow by Sunday afternoon in some locations. This will cause many people to declare the entire episode a failure, as usual, without actually waiting until the episode is complete. This, I think, is beyond laughable.”
I hope you don’t mind me reposting your comment, TK. I just could help myself 🙂 it was a perfect fit!
You are free to do so. Besides you used quotes and gave me credit so you’re safe from a lawsuit. 😉 heeheehee
I was ready to hire Katy Perry’s lawyers. 😛
lol 🙂
Charlie I have a couple of inches so far. Not sure where your reporting from today 🙂
Thank you for verifying my public reaction forecast. 😛
Might as well use the day to open the pool.
Portland, ME : 11F, Portsmouth, NH : 17F.
How long with the upper 20s hold in southern New England ……
Thanks Tom.
I guess we are in one of those lulls. Not much happening. After considerable
eye strain, I was able to see a few flakes still coming down, but that’s it.
Basically nothing happening here at the moment.
Here’s a snow map just posted by Dave Epstein. Isn’t it something that
between now and Tuesday they can get it precisely to the tenth of an inch. Amazing how they do that. So this is obviously the output of ONE SINGLE
computer model:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9UF27_IcAAm4VQ.png
FWIW, Tim Kelly Maps
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9UMTnUCQAEewTW.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9UMTohCcAAjD2X.png
Same here … A few flurries flying ….
LOL about the snow totals …..
So, I think I saw Hadi mentioned that Logan is reporting 3.7 inches ….
Implies they expect about another 19 – 20 inches, with the ocean enhancement helping out.
I guess they must expect the temps to drop dramatically because I dont think we could get the ocean enhancement at the current temperatures.
Yes and No. What are the 850MB temps?
If I use the NAM, it’s about -6C or 21 over the ocean
out there. Ocean temp about 40? that’s a 19 Degree
differential, so it’s possible. Would be better IF colder.
We shall see.
It’s 29.5 here, after sneaking up to 30 a bit ago.
Weill be watching that thermometer.
Thats a good point OS !!
O crap spoke to soon, there’s 2.5 inches here, didn’t look like that through window, just sanders out
That’s better.
4 inches of snow here in Groveland and still snowing moderately…22.2 degrees
Also noting that Boston and Beverly’s current 8am obs showing strongest winds in region, with gusts over 20 mph. Rest of obs show winds much weaker. Perhaps the surface, colder air making its move ??
Perhaps. Keep watching.
Oh by the way, had a peek at the GFS out to 16 days.
It looks like MORE Shenaniganson the way!!! Although some
action is depicted as just OTS or grazing, it’s so far out there that
they way it has been going this year, We may be in for it.
Is this going to be a RECORD SMASHER of a year?
Its crazy OS !!
My concern is the clock is ticking …..
Its Feb 8th, in 3 weeks, the sun will be at 40 degrees above the horizon in New England.
Two weather trains, if you will, are going to be building with opposite forces.
We are evidently headed towards amazing snow depths, while climatology starts to move us towards an inevitable warmup, that if and when the pattern flips, could be quite dramatic, especially if it arrives in March.
SPRING FLOODING is definitely on the table. We’ll have to watch for that after we get through all of this!
You love weather inconveniences, anything to inconvenience the human, yes we have no control over it, but rooting for any inconvenience for humans is bad, bad for the soul 🙂
Nah …. None of us love or are rooting for the bad weather impacts ….
But to not plan or anticipate for the possibility of them is not a wise choice either. 🙂 🙂 🙂
You should be happy. These inconveniences are making you money. 😉
Charlie, aren’t you heading to patriots place soon?
About to sneak in another snow burst for northern Mass and southern NH …..
This storm is going to have serious surprises. With this many variables in play, it’s inevitable that something is not going to go according to plan. No telling whether that results in more or less snow though. In general, I would say that the NWS snow map is overdone. 18-24″ should be reserved for the North Shore, with a general 14-18″ elsewhere, less to the south. But it’s going to be interesting to watch, we don’t see too many like this.
18-24 where the hek is that? That’s crazy!! Where is this going to happen?
North Shore. Ocean enhancement. Pretty much every forecast has that. Down in the Wrentham/Attleboro area, I’d expect about a foot or a little over. And again, it won’t all be on the ground for another 48+ hours.
North Shore has a decent shot. They’re getting ocean effect snow as we speak.
Snow just picked up in intensity RAPIDLY!!!
Snowing good here now.
Here’s a bit of a clue re: Ocean Effect
http://www.wunderground.com/weather-radar/united-states/ma/boston/bos/?region=bml
Neat OS and Weatherwx ….
On the lookout for its arrival !!!
Oooops …
Sorry Wxwatcher …. I apologize for fouling up your name !
Lol, no worries Tom 🙂
WeatherWx.
Sounds like the name of a rap artist.
“I’m Flavor Flav!”
“I’m WeatherWx!”
See? It has a ring.
I can see an ocean effect snow band on radar. Just south of Boston.
Just for fun, I checked the SNOW totals we posted in November.
Here are the top ones:
Old Salty 94.6
Tjammer 67.6
John 67.5
Shotime 62.2
Hadi 56.8
Didn’t realize I had the highest totals.
I MAY end up low. 😀 😀 😀
Nice …. I’m glad you stopped the list there. 🙂 🙂
Pretty sure weatherwiz had over 100!
Don’t remember, I just copied and pasted from the Contest
page. 😀
My Apologies, Must have picked up an earlier version.
Here are the top predications:
WeatherWiz 100.1
Old Salty 94.6
Cat966G 70.0
Tjammer 67.6
John 67.5
Shotime 62.2
Hadi 56.8
North 56.7
bearlb67 56.0
Haterain 54.0
I was trying to be that guy on The Price is Right who bids a dollar. Never thought 100″+ would even be a remote possibility.
Well it certainly is. May not get there, but it
seems like a very reasonable prediction at this point. 😀
Snow let up again
JR totals…Any ocean enhancement in there?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9U3pzvCQAAim47.png
The snow is all north and west, look at radar 🙂
Most of your snow comes tonight and tomorrow.
There have been no surprises thus far.
Read my discussion and other comments that follow regarding the setup of this event. 🙂
HRRR snowfall from 6AM this morning until 9PM tonight
http://rapidrefresh.noaa.gov/HRRR/for_web/hrrr_ncep_jet/2015020811/t3/acsnw_t3sfc_f15.png
Doesn’t look like a whole lot of action today and MOST of this falls starting
around 6PM tonight. Many lulls and periods of very light snow today.
Tim Kelley NECN retweeted
David J Bagley WX @DavidBsWeather 11m11 minutes ago
8:42 AM-Snow this AM with Moderate bursts-Ocean enhancement starting to show up as well along Coast #weather
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9U5ZiVCQAI2bXt.jpg
Here’s some more snow maps:
0Z WRF-NMM through 7Pm Monday only
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/wrf-nmm/2015020800/wrf-nmm_asnow_neus_48.png
0Z Wrf-ARW
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/wrf-arw/2015020800/wrf-arw_asnow_neus_48.png
NAM 4KM
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/wrf-arw/2015020800/wrf-arw_asnow_neus_48.png
RGEM 6Z through 6Z Tues (does NOT include snow that fell prior to 1AM today)
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/rgem/2015020806/rgem_asnow_neus_16.png
OH and all of those maps assume 10:1 ratio
One consistent message.
Lawrence, MA down to 18F.
According to obs, winds are picking up from Blue Hill observatory, Boston and points north and northeastward.
Still very light wind here in Marshfield.
Ocean effect snow just arrived !!
Cool. It’s a Narrow band, however. Just a precursor to what is to come. Enjoy.
Now, starting to see the northeast wind pick up, with gusts.
12Z NAM is cranking Same theme as Tom says.
MAIN action gets going around 6PM this evening. Not a whole lot of shaking going
on prior to then, IF you HAVE to get out today, please do so before 6PM.
Not totally questioning the forecast of this event but that HRR output OS posted for today gives me pause. It was advertised as a long duration event with no periods of really heavy snow, more or less a slow gradual accumulation. Not sure how much Logan picked up yesterday but today apparently, 3.7″ so far. The HRR is saying another 3 or so between now and 9pm. That’s roughly 7.” If the high end of the 18-24″ were to be realized, it would have to snow around a foot and a half in basically a 24 hr period between late tonight and late Monday night (tues looks to be like yesterday, very little accumulation). That might be achieved with ocean affect, but all other areas relying on synoptic snows will have a difficult time getting big totals, especially south and west of Boston. TK mentioned high stakes around the formation of a coastal front, but as Tom pointed out last night this set-up wouldn’t necessarily produce that front in its classic location like during a nor’easter. This all points to big bust potential south of a line from Springfield to Worcester to Boston.
Yes and I still have that confusion re : coastal front.
I propose Boston does well, ocean effect wise, if the coastal front sets up 15 or 20 miles east, out into the ocean. It puts Boston on the cold side of things and west of the boundary. I also propose that, thats what is going to happen. I’m struggling to see how Logan maintains close to 30F.
I guess yesterday, I got the idea that the thought was the coastal front would set up just INLAND from the coast line. But, then if thats the case, I’d think the snow maxes should be in the Merrimack Valley, not along the immediate coastline.
It should be quite interesting to see how it all plays out.
Tom, Here’s another interesting temperature reading for you:
9AM Portsmouth NH down to 13 !!!!!!
That’s NOT far up the coast at all.
Other note:
Manchester AND Concord are at 16
So your observation that the COLD is leaking down the coast from MAINE
is SPOT on.
Here are some MAINE temps
Portland 11
Bar Harbor 5
Bangor 2
Caribou -7
Thanks OS …. Should be interesting to see the progression the next few hrs.
It still mild enough here that there’s some water dripping off of the roof and the 3 or so inches that fell last night must be somewhat wet snow because its coated to the trees.
I’m here to confirm your organized ramblings Tom and OS.
We have some brief bursts of synoptic snow coming from the WNW as a result of lift over the Arctic boundary (stationary front style) now. These taper off again much like they did yesterday.
Yes indeed that small ocean-effect snow band has come ashore on the South Shore, not the North Shore where that action will be later.
And most of the snow will fall starting this evening for about 24 to 30 hours, that is, about 75% of the accumulation in most locations.
Thanks TK !
Hearing Led Zeppelin’s tune ….. Ramble on running through my head.
Love that tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW5ZLyY9w0Y
Snowing pretty good here once again, IT will be short lived, I believe.
Temperature is pretty much holding here. Currently at 29.3
It has NOT Crashed, but did drop a bit from 30 and holding.
I saw a 34 for Marshfield.
Guessing I will go out once today to shovel then again when it ends on Tuesdsay. Just hats cleaning twice.
Hats not hats ha
12Z NAM Snow map. Does NOT include the couple of inches that fell in some spots
prior to 1AM. Does indicate MOST falls after 6PM tonight.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2015020812&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=057
I believe I would have to say that is DOWNSIZED somewhat.
That’s 14-16 inches for Boston.
I wonder IF 12Z GFS comes in LOWER as well.
Does this point to what Ace has posted above? Hmmm
Now time for TK to say, Not downsizing, just getting real or some such wording. 😀
My concern all along. The very biggest amounts are going to be focused in small areas.
INTERESTING Latest Summary from NWS:
WILL DISCUSS SNOW ACCUMS A LOT MORE LATER THIS AFTERNOON. GIVEN MORE MESOSCALE PROCESSES AND LESS SYNOPTIC FORCING THAT WE OFTEN SEE WITH WINTER STORMS IN THESE PARTS…SNOW AMOUNTS MAY VARY
CONSIDERABLY ACROSS THE REGION BY THE TIME ALL IS SET AND DONE.
Snow still holding on here.
Those of you that are friends with me on my personal FB page have seen this photo but I will share it here. Took this photo just after 10:30PM last night (Saturday) atop Zion Hill on the west side of Woburn MA. Snow was falling and the wind was calm, yet look at the American flag, which froze solid as the wind was extending it and the temperature was crashing after the overnight rain and during the midday snow on Thursday.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10984255_10153122008697265_2301600297623437332_n.jpg?oh=80612a099f9e40c13bdcb24a792d784d&oe=554F6E77&__gda__=1432516882_41c4147d7358af098414afa3317efd6a
Awesome photo. Thanks for sharing.
Lower amounts would be fine with me at this point! The good thing about having recently upgraded attic insulation is that the snow doesn’t really melt on the roof and we don’t get icicles or ice dams. The bad thing is, the snow doesn’t really melt and just keeps piling up, particularly in the shade on our lower roof.
Latest detail discussion from NWS
EXPECT MAINLY JUST SOME LIGHT SNOW ACROSS NORTHERN MA THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON. ACROSS THE REST OF THE REGION…MAINLY DRY WEATHER WILL PERSIST INTO EARLY AFTERNOON WITH JUST A FEW FLURRIES/LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS POSSIBLE.
SNOW WILL BEGIN TO FILL BACK IN ACROSS THE REGION BY MID TO LATE
AFTERNOON. THIS A RESULT OF A STRENGTHENING EAST TO NORTHEAST LOW LEVEL JET AS WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE APPROACHES FROM THE WEST. WE ALSO WILL START TO SEE LOCALIZED HEAVIER SNOW BANDS SETUP NEAR THE I-95 CORRIDOR BY EARLY EVENING ON A STRONG COASTAL FRONT. IN FACT…BOUNDARY ALREADY SETTING UP WITH TEMPS RANGING FROM 18 DEGREES IN LAWRENCE AND 34 DEGREES IN MARSHFIELD. THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR OTHER LOCALIZED HEAVIER SNOW BANDS ACROSS THE WORCESTER HILLS AND EAST SLOPES OF THE BERKS…AS A RESULT OF SUBTLE UPSLOPE FLOW. IN BETWEEN THE HEAVIER BANDS OF SNOW AND ESPECIALLY IN THE LOWER CT RIVER VALLEY WITH SOME SHADOWING…EXPECT POCKETS OF
LOWER AMOUNTS.
Tim Kelley NECN @SurfSkiWxMan 7m7 minutes ago Connecticut, USA
cooling 2 degrees per hour Manchester NH,
http://w1.weather.gov/obhistory/KMHT.html …
heading into Massachusetts. Here comes the cold, and fatter flakes
Perhaps the last Hurrah with this band, but snowing really good here now.
Radar display indicates that it should quit very soon.
Even the composite display goes BLANK very very soon.
Blog updated!
Go there please!
Weekend Update #2 🙂
Look at this national radar image.
If one were not tuned in and casually glanced at this, they would NOT NOT NOT
have the slightest clue as to what is about to transpire. Usually we would see
the echoes down stream ready to pounce on NE. Not so this time.
Very very interesting set up. AND did someone mention BUST potential??? 😀 😀
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?region=default
4 inches of snow here in billerica.Really fluffy snowing lightly right now
Today is good day to do any additional cleanup needed and get rid of any more snow on the roof, etc. any more snow and then rain is going to start making things dangerous. I am off to spend a couple of hours outside. Going over to Charlie’s for a pool party around 2 🙂
It’s like in the movie Day After Tomorrow 🙂