7:28AM
DAYS 1-5 (NOVEMBER 15-19)
A small area of low pressure comes up the coast today and delivers some rain to the region. Fair weather returns for the balance of the week.
TODAY: Cloudy. Periods of rain. Highs 52-64, warmest southeastern areas. Wind NE to E 5-15 MPH.
TONIGHT: Cloudy. Rain showers early. Patchy fog. Lows 40-48. Wind light NE becoming variable.
WEDNESDAY: Mostly cloudy to partly sunny. Highs 50-58. Wind W 5-15 MPH.
THURSDAY: Mostly sunny. Lows 35-42. Highs 48-56.
FRIDAY: Mostly sunny. Lows 35-42. Highs 50-58.
SATURDAY: Mostly sunny. Lows 35-42. Highs 50-58.
DAYS 6-10 (NOVEMBER 20-24)
Rain risk November 20. Turning windy/colder November 21. Fair and chilly November 22-23. Watch a possible storm system for Thanksgiving but low confidence this far in advance.
DAYS 11-15 (NOVEMBER 25-29)
A little more active weather pattern may bring a couple storm threats.
Thanks…TK
Thank you, TK!
Good morning and thank you TK.
NWS has a special weather statement for possible flooding today.
Looks like the small system is set to Deliver. π
At least the initial part of this system is spreading the bulk of the rain
to the West of us.
https://www.wunderground.com/weather-radar/united-states/ny/new-york-city/okx/?region=hfd
We shall see what develops later on.
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The shelters, Rebel Heart
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Have a wonderful day all.
Looking forward to Winter and some snow. “Hopefully” we’ll at least get some.
Would truly LOVE a white Thanksgiving, but it’s not likely.
Saw the extended forecast go out to the 25th. I thought to myself “wow that is far out the n time”. I then realized it’s the 15th holy shit is this month flying
As I read your comment, I realized Thanksgiving is next week. It sure is flying by.
don’t remind me, im falling behind on school work and physics is giving me a run for my money… its worse than chemistry
Thanks TK. Hope you feel better.
Fighting hard, with very little energy.
But the battle will be won. Count on it!
Sending healing thoughts your way TK! I know how much you love the holidays so I sure hope you are 100% soon.
Thanks TK and feel better soon!
Hang in there TK !
Feel better, TK. My prayers go out to you and I am sure you will be better soon.
lots of time between now and then but here the differences in models for around Thanksgiving
Euro (hour 216)
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2016111500/ecmwf_T850_us_10.png
EURO (Hour 240)
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2016111500/ecmwf_T850_us_11.png
EURO tracks over southeast mass ( to warm of us for snow)
EPS ( EURO Ensemble)
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf-ens/2016111500/ecmwf-ens_T850_mslp_us_11.png Takes it south
00z GFS (snowy)
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/gfs/2016111500/gfs_T850_us_40.png
the GEFS does not have it
The 06z gfs now has it as rain with the lakes system being dominate then secondary development and it just spins out in the Atlantic. Shooting periods of rain
an active pattern possibly forming yes, I just donβt think it will be in the form of snow or at least accumulating sno
Probably not. We shall see.
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through PayPal. I cancelled my PayPal subscription because they
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I may be able to pay them by check. I am looking into that.
On a related note, we were shopping at TJ Max last evening
and my wife found a great top that she really liked.
She looked at the label and saw that it was Ivanka Trump
so she promptly threw it on the floor.
Sorry, I was expressing anger. She didn’t throw it on
the floor, she simply placed it back on the rack.
No more Patriots games for you! π
Didn’t watch the game Sunday night. You noticed that
I didn’t even comment.
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Thanks TK and feel better.
Will watch around Thanksgiving as GFS seems to be going back and forth with some accumulating snow for the interior and a rainorama.
We shall see, but generally speaking, too early for snow anywhere near the coast. Sure it could happen, but odds favor not.
I agree and 0z GFS that came out last night was depicting an accumulating snow for the interior. I remember back in 2005 there was a White Thanksgiving at my house and the Boston area and coast got plain rain from that same system.
And in …………….1989? I always get that wrong and say 1990. Let’s see how I did this time.
I remember Thanksgiving 1989 as my first White Thanksgiving. It snowed through a good part of the morning and had to shovel the driveway to get to my grandparents for Thanksgiving dinner.
Thanks TK !
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao.shtml
http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao.fcst.gif
I would say, if these 2 projected teleconnections end up being this negative in about 10 days, then there’s definitely increased storminess possibilities that have a chance of a more southerly track, underneath us.
Taking climatology into account that it will only be late November and above average SST, odds would favor rain near the coast, but moderately inland areas probably would have an opportunity at frozen, given that continental dry air or maybe even some polar air would be closer to New England at that time.
That makes perfect sense. Inland, yes. Coast, nope.
The only way the coast has a chance at any snow is IF
the winds turn more Northerly as a system pulls away.
Then the question would be how much moisture would be
left hanging around.
Depending on the precise track of a system and its precipitation shield it is certainly possible, but that is what would be needed.
Any component off of the water spells RAIN. The SST is 54 Degrees. That is still a FULL 22 Degrees above freezing.
We need that temp to get down to at least the low 40s for a chance. OR we need STRONG and cold Arctic Air in place.
HRRR calling for 1-2 inches of rain across the area today.
From NWS:
* Bands of heavy rain and isolated thunderstorms may result in
localized urban street flooding late this morning into early
this evening.
JPD…thoughts on heavy rain in the Kingston area between 4 and 6? My younger son’s football team is Super Bowl bound on Sunday and they are supposed to practice tonight. Just want the coaches to be prepared. π
Does not look good.
HRRR radar reflectivity
4PM
http://atlas.cod.edu/data/forecast/HRRR/15/NE/HRRRNE_prec_radar_005.png
5PM
http://atlas.cod.edu/data/forecast/HRRR/15/NE/HRRRNE_prec_radar_006.png
6PM
http://atlas.cod.edu/data/forecast/HRRR/15/NE/HRRRNE_prec_radar_007.png
Of course, this does not mean the HRRR is correct, but combine this with the NWS doom and gloom forecast,
chances are good you will be in for quite a bit of rain and much of it rather heavy.
best of luck.
I’m ALWAYS skeptical of NWS doom and gloom forecasts when it comes to rainfall amounts. Looking at the current radar, the bulk of the rain is well to the west with scattered bands rotating into eastern sections. This does not appear to support those 1-2″ amounts but who knows what it will look like later today.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
We shall see a bit later. π
https://www.wunderground.com/weather-radar/united-states/ny/new-york-city/okx/?region=hfd
Thanks JPD. Would hate for any of our players to get hurt due to field conditions. We need them ALL for the big game on Sunday. π
what team??
It is a youth football team out of Kingston.
12z GFS for Thanksgiving. Snowrama northern New England Rainorama Southern New England.
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2016111512/ecmwf_T850_neus_7.png
anyone have the precipitation type?? I only have this and the 500 for the euro.
Although 850mb temps are cold, surface still TOO warm mostly in the 40s.
So a miserable cold rainy Thanksgiving day, great
Sure looks that way. Hey it’s still out there. Perhaps enough cold air will sneak in and mix down to the surface.
12Z Euro does NOT appear to have precipitation heavy enough for that to happen, but one never knows.
As long as it clears out for that weekend as I’ve got multiple jobs going on.
thats for Monday. euro shows nothing for thanksgiving day
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/ecmwf/2016111512/ecmwf_T850_us_11.png
the storm that was there for thanksgiving has slowed down which could help make it cold enough for some snow to mix in for that storm if it makes it up. Two storms to watch
If your a skier your loving what the 12z GFS is putting out for Northern New England.
yes I am, but would like to include Northern mass as well for Wachusett as thats where I usually start my season and go if I only have a short time and can not make a full day of it.
Area of heavy rainfall coming through SE MA and approaching Boston. Between now and sunset is when we get most of our rain.
Shift this more to the east please. 12z EURO for Sunday. Tweet and images from meteorologist Dan Leonard.
https://twitter.com/DanLeonard_wx/status/798593308830400512?lang=en
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=BOX&product=N0R&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
moderate rain moving northward beneficial rain
It’s been raining pretty good here at the office for some time now.
The NHC is giving this disturbance, “Invest 90L”, an 80% chance of developing in the next 5 days. If given a name, it would be “Otto”. The ECMWF shows it becoming a major hurricane in the Caribbean, but appears to be an outlier among its ensembles. A tropical storm or lower end hurricane is more likely by next week.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/floaters/90L/imagery/avn_lalo-animated.gif
Still pretty heavy rain to come through Boston.
Feels like a Seattle day. Damp and rainy.
.95 here last I checked. I assume is closing in on an inch.
I had to turn heat on for second time and only for about 10 minutes – just to get damp chill out.
1.25″ here
1.49 here and still raining lightly.
Still raining very steadily here. Up another 2 tics to 1.52 inches.
Oops. 1.51
i know its the 18z but by the end of the run it shows 15 inches of snow for parts of the region
Very interesting.
Fat chance of that verifying.
I’m willing to bet it is gone on the 0z run. We shall see.
1.33 here
Turned into a mild, muggy evening in SE Mass.
Temps and dew points not too far from 60F, SE winds.
Wow. It is 50.9 here. 44 DP
As Matt alluded to, 18z GFS is a potent nor’easter for Thanksgiving night into Black Friday with snow and wind for SNE and rain changing to snow even on the coast. And to boot, with a blocking pattern in effect, the storm just sits near the benchmark for 3 days, throwing snow back into the area as it just spins and dies out.
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs®ion=neus&pkg=mslp_pcpn_frzn&runtime=2016111518&fh=228&xpos=0&ypos=128
Snowmap has a foot or more for much of interior SNE and even 6″ into a good portion of Boston Metro:
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=gfs®ion=neus&pkg=asnow&runtime=2016111518&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=299&xpos=0&ypos=299
Well now that sounds fun. So I should make room in the garage for my car ??
With NAO and AO squarely negative next week, I could totally buy the scenario of a cold coastal storm with interior snow and rain ending as snow on the coast…..though perhaps not of the strength and duration that the 18z GFS is depicting.
0z GFS says no to a White Thanksgiving. One thing consistent with the GFS is a system has been showing up around Thanksgiving for several runs now. More runs have shown wet rather than wintry.
Then it spawns a coastal storm 3 days later with interior snow changing to rain. One thing for sure…we will be entering into a colder and stormier pattern next week.
This past evening Harvey mentioned that as well. Definitely a heads-up!
Sunday night/Monday looks very windy and cold after the storm passes with a few snow showers, temps in the 30’s, and wind chills in the 20’s. That will feel frigid after the string of 60 degree days this week!
I’m referring to the storm this Sunday 11/20 (not the potential storm(s) over the Thanksgiving holiday period)
One thing you are all forgetting with these model snow maps – they usually assume a 10:1 ratio. That does not usually hold true, especially with early season storms.
trust me we know
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