7:44AM
DAYS 1-5 (MARCH 28-APRIL 1)
Forecast update. Additional discussion to come later.
TODAY: Cloudy. Patchy fog/drizzle. Risk of rain showers and a thunderstorm South Coast. Rain returns all areas by late day. Highs 38-45. Wind light variable.
TONIGHT: Cloudy. Episodes of rain showers and possible thunderstorms evening. Patchy fog. Lows 32-40. Wind light variable to N.
WEDNESDAY: Variably cloudy. Windy. Chance of rain/snow showers early. Highs 37-45. Wind N 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
THURSDAY: Mostly sunny. Breezy. Lows 25-33. Highs 40-48.
FRIDAY: Increasing clouds. Chance of rain/mix/snow evening-night. Lows 25-33. Highs 38-45.
SATURDAY: Cloudy. Snow/mix/rain likely. Lows 29-35. Highs 35-42.
DAYS 6-10 (APRIL 2-6)
Unsettled weather may linger April 2 then return by April 5-6. Temperatures below normal.
DAYS 11-15 (APRIL 7-11)
A continuation of an unsettled and cooler than normal pattern is expected.
Thanks for the post TK. Curious to see how it changes for Friday.
Thanks TK !
Thanks TK. For today, looks like good potential for half an inch of rain for most of the region, possibly up to an inch. Heaviest amounts, as well as a low chance for some thunder, likely to favor areas south of the Pike and probably closer to the South Coast. Much needed rain, and it’s good news, because I was worried several days ago that this unsettled period may not produce much in the way of precip. Today and the late week system should help with that.
Thank you TK
Thanks, TK.
This is Spring? Oh, well. We can use the rain; glad about that. But would be nice to see the sun for a change.
The sun? What’s that?????
It is all my fault, rainshine. I got the new glasses Saturday and haven’t had sun to test if the darken as much as I would like
Around here? Yes.
Thank you TK!
Good morning again and Thank you TK.
Oh Good. Just what we need!! Here is some info re: American Computer models
(28 March 2017): Due to problems with NCEP’s data feed, maps and/or soundings may be slightly delayed for some American models.
No wonder I cannot see any NAM results yet.
12Z NAM is rolling now. 😀
Give us the bad news!
No news yet. Well not really. 1/2 to 1+ inch of rain this evening and overnight. That’s not necessarily bad news.
This is somewhat concerning regarding the moisture gathering
for the Friday night into Saturday event. Look at it out West by
Oklahoma and Kansas.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2017032812&var=PCPPRSTMP_2m&hour=022
Ordinarily this would become a cutter, but this time around, perhaps not. 😀
Interesting. By my untrained eye it certainly looks like a lot of moisture.
The axis of heaviest rain this evening lies along the South coast.
http://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam4km/2017032812/021/qpf_acc.us_ne.png
Ok, 12Z NAM is complete. Still indeterminate. Looks promising, but I can’t tell
what it will do beyond 84 hours. It has cold rain or wet snow or Both in here
with snow accumulating to the West.
0Z run tonight should be more telling.
Thanks JPD!
Quick peak of 12z NAM on cod site burst of wintry precipitation for Friday late morning through afternoon. Very small accumulation for interior parts of MA and CT but since its falling during the day I think these small amounts are over done.
It needs to be a perfect storm this time of year with no room for eror for around these parts anyway .
In general I agree, however, stranger things have happened around these parts. 😀
It’s easier to snow in April than in November
Yes. Yes it is.
Easier to snow but harder to accumulate.
Unless it’s at night.
12Z GFS is trying to head through the Lakes. We’ll see if it makes it before
a redevelopment takes place on the coast.
Friday night is critical time. Atmosphere probably too warm by Saturday.
Does redevelop south of us, but brings warm layer aloft cutting off any snow.
Here is Kichera map:
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2017032812&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=132
Friday night would be critical time and that is where I anticipate most of the precip falling, but hard to nail down 6 hour intervals this far out. Don’t expect any significant winter event, but with a drain of cold air coming down off north winds, just maybe…
Have I said how much I detest the Kuchera snow tool method in the Spring?? Ok, my broken record will stop.
Yes you have said that but the 10:1 has no clue as to what the
ratio might be this time of year. I understand how you might take the
10:1 and come up with a ratio and reduce the snow accordingly.
But just looking at a single map, the Kuchera is closer to reality that
a 10:1 map for lower ratio snow. No? Btw and fwiw, for the event you missed while on vacation, the Kuchera maps almost nailed it perfectly.
Actually, a 10:1 ratio is more likely at this time of year. The problem is, that just takes the amount of precip that will fall as snow, not what will actually accumulate. The Kucera maps doesn’t take that into account either.
The Kuchera maps at 48 hours plus were not even close on the storm that I missed. A matter of fact they were off by as much as 50% in coastal and valley locations in SNE.
10:1 with applied meteorology a much better option
The Kuchera I looked at had 7.4 for boston and I measured 7.5 at my house.
To be fair, I was looking more close in, say 24 hours or less.
I completely understand what you mean by the 10:1.
What I am trying to say is that for those unknowing, the kuchera gives a better representation than the 10:1. The unknowing person could look at a 10:1 map and think they were getting clobbered with 12 inches plus, when in reality it would be more like 4-6 inches.
Even if the kuchera misses the mark.
Yup, I get that. Snow maps are always difficult.
We non-mets here used to take them verbatim, but we have been schooled by TK and JMA and now more recently yourself. Most of us now understand what
those maps are all about and do also understand
that amounts will be even less when factoring in marginal surface temperatures and sun angle if daytime.
But thank you and thank you JMA for continually reminding us and cautioning us about the maps use.
😀
Is the Friday night potential the last realistic chance for the season?
12Z Euro looks mighty interesting
Surface
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF-php/showmap-ecmwf.php?run=2017032812®ion=USA&var=PRMSL_msl&hour=096
850mb
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/ECMWF-php/showmap-ecmwf.php?run=2017032812®ion=USA&var=TMP_850mb&hour=096
My service isn’t out far enough to check precip type and snowfall.
Pretty sharp snow line just South of Boston or so it would appear.
I’d be happy to be in the rain area, please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Euro starts things Friday afternoon.
Euro is CRAZY!
Keeps snow in the air for about 30 hours or so.
With marginal temps and sun angle, snow map is probably useless, although
Friday night it will accumulate some.
Map shortly.
Here it is
http://imgur.com/a/cGBnT
boston: 6.2 inches
Worcester: 14.5
Fitchburg: 17.7
sutton: 9.3
There is some rain for a time Southern and Eastern areas.
Suffice to say, most interesting.
Stay tuned for future runs as we see how this plays out.
Whatever methodology the Eurowx site is using is completely useless if that map is its output snowtool.
Keep posting but maps will not be your friend here. The knowledge you have gained and sought out so often will guide you better.
I did post: With marginal temps and sun angle, snow map is probably useless
But, yes, I’ll continue to post them.
Should be interesting for sure.
Longshot ….. Have you found that HHH weather yet ?????
April 15th…
Perfect ! Vacation 🙂
Not to mention Tax Day! 🙁
Tom….laughing out loud here!
Bring that a little further south for me with the snow.
I posted your name on that very subject, Jimmy! 😀
I suspect the only way for your area to get into the snow, the storm needs to pass a bit further south.
Check yesterday’s blog. I was responding to one of JPD’s many maps. 🙂
LOL!!!
If I see an accumulation of snow on Friday Philip its just icing on the cake. Two storms that dumped just over a foot of snow I am happy considering how warm this winter was.
We may come close to a record for the least amount of sun over a fairly long stretch from now through the first 10 days of April. Let’s do it! 😀 Are you in Dave? 😀 😀
If you think I’m good with that, I have some swamp land in Florida for you.
That being said, If we approach the record at all, then yeah sure, I’m in. 😀
Sun should be out Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar.
That tomorrow there’ll be sun……………
Not much tomorrow. Much more Thursday.
I’m trying to have a patio built………..this is NOT working for me. Although, any contractor I have here laughs at me because I’m always telling them there is no rush!
late april should be the time to do patio. cool but most of the mud has ended 😉 then again you could be mean and make who ever is doing the patio doing in May/June with that sun angle like my parents :/
No. Never mean. Ground needs to be dry so looks like late April it will be
Hmmm I know it is 18Z, but the 18Z NAM is offering a pretty cold solution with
850mb temperatures below -3C. Interesting.
Looking at Cod Site Ice Accumulation for CT on that 18z NAM run.
Terrible news out of Texas today. 2-vehicle crash. 3 fatalities, at least 2, possibly all 3, were storm chasers. No names or details yet.
Oh TK they are all horrific but that hits far too close to home.
Hey old salty I bet your doing a little snow dance over there lol. I can see it now . I wish I could post something here from my face book page regarding snow you’d be on the floor laughing as I was.
Nope. There are other things going on here.
Watching carefully, however.
I hear that my friend . Serious about my posting a guy is going nuts I got to get the bread & milk.
To Tom
I’m still looking for that special model.
Longshot
Excellent 🙂 🙂
How about Kate Upton?
Or gigi hadid
Eric’s take on the weekend. And March….apparently we are the coldest place in the country
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/03/28/new-month-more-snow-cold-noreaster-kicks-off-april/
typical spring 🙂
18z GFS now has the event as all snow not that far outside 495 NW of Boston.
Here are the seven day forecasts from around the dial. Channel five took forever to display their wed-tue forecast.
http://i.imgur.com/cOiviv2.jpg
Thank you, Sir
a certain station on there should not even count
Speaking of milk and bread, start making plans based on this 720 hour CFS forecast! Snowstorm end of April! 😉
http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=cfs&p=prateptype_cat&rh=2017032812&fh=slideshow&r=conus&dpdt=#&gid=1&pid=60
Look at that, no one would be spared ….. Snow all the way to Martha’s Vineyard and Nantucket.
I know right?! Cross country skiing on the islands at the end of April! You can go to the beach and ski at the same time! 😀 😀 😀
You don’t go along with that run, eh?
Sure I do! Almost 30th anniversary of the April 28-29 1987 snowstorm. I mean after all we have a 20th anniversary of the April Fools storm coming up, so why not? 😉
Don’t forget, this year is the 40th anniversary of the May 9, 1977 storm.
Hey, where’s the energy for that sytem? It’s probably what’s passing through here now.
Re Fri night and Sat
I am in wait and see mode.
Been sucker in too many times.
We shall see. Getting very interesting.
I cannot type on a mobile device or any device for that matter.
For higher elevated areas NH & Maine .
John, you are simply not paying attention, or don’t care or are wishing it away.
Based on?
Do you think it’s the perfect set up Tk???
It’s not 1997 certainly…
But the ingredients are in place for it. What remains unknown are the details.
Snow threat does not mean every single inch of southern New England is going to be nailed with big snow.
We have a storm system coming up Friday into Saturday that will probably produce some measurable snow for part of and possibly much of southern New England. Initially favored areas are away from the South Coast, but as for detail, we’ll start trying to nail those down beginning tomorrow.
That is one slug of rain moving through. Best be out of here by moring.
Should be out of here by about 5 or 6AM.
Kind of sad reading this story about 3 storm chasers killed today from a car accident while chasing a tornado.
A tragedy. They risk their lives to bring an understanding of the complexity of storms through their passion.
0zNAM snow through 12z Saturday for entertainment purposes only……….
http://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=namconus®ion=neus&pkg=asnow&runtime=2017032900&fh=84
Brings the warm layer in here like the GFS. Nothing like the 18Z run, which I suppose is to be expected. Next up GFS and Euro. 😀 Still delivers some snow
ahead of the warming.
Eric announced on air that the next system as a nor’easter. Is that accurate TK?
That’s a stretch. The storm is moving in from the west across Ohio and PA, and then redeveloping off the NJ coast.
I figured as much. 😉
No idea how the algorithm comes up with 6-12″ of snow across much of CT, RI, and eastern MA. Doesn’t jive with the surface map which shows more rain and a quicker changeover.
banding situation, heavier precip to start.
0z NAM showing ice accumulation for inland CT.
0z GFS looking colder with a good thump of snow Friday night across Northern CT/RI and MA.
So close to accumulating snow for my area.
0z GFS
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2017032900&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=102
6z GFS more bullish with snow for SNE. Most of this falls overnight hours.
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2017032906&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=108
6z NAM by comparison keeping snow for northern New England but showing an ice accumulation for interior parts of CT western MA
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2017032906&time=PER&var=ASNOWI&hour=084
Latest NAM pushes axis of snow farther North as does the Euro.
This may be resolving itself as we get closer here. Looks like there may
not be much snow across most of SNE with the snow confined to Central and Northern
NE.
Perhaps there will be some changes with the 12Z runs, but looks like more Rain here than anything. We shall see.
Oddly, the GFS has shifted more snow to SNE than previous runs, so we still have to monitor.
Very tricky forecast for Friday/Saturday. At this point, the highest confidence areas look to be coastal areas (at least within ~25 miles of the coast), where rain and perhaps some sleet pellets should dominate, and areas well to the north and west of Boston, like southern-central NH and the Berkshires, where several inches of wet snow is increasingly likely. In between is a real mess though. For example, the 3z SREF plumes at Worcester indicate near equal chances of rain, snow, sleet, or freezing rain for much of the event.
Looking like quite a bit of QPF to play with as well. 1″+, maybe even 1.5″+ in some places.
New post!