7:32AM
DAYS 1-5 (NOVEMBER 17-21)
Discussion (edit of previous)…
A dry but windy and chilly day today between yesterday’s storm system and the next one coming over the weekend. Clouds arrive Saturday but rain holds off until night, then lingers into Sunday morning before the wind and cold return and last into Monday before it moderates Tuesday.
Detailed forecast…
TODAY: Increasing sun. Highs 42-47. Wind W 15-25 MPH, higher gusts.
TONIGHT: Mostly clear. Lows 28-35. Wind W 5-15 MPH, higher gusts.
SATURDAY: Increasing clouds. Highs 42-47. Wind light variable.
SATURDAY NIGHT: Cloudy. Periods of rain evening. Rain showers likely overnight. Temperature rising to 50-55. Wind SE to S 5-15 MPH.
SUNDAY: Mostly cloudy with rain showers morning. Partly sunny afternoon. Temperatures falling into the 40s morning then to the 30s by late afternoon. Wind W increasing to 15-30 MPH with higher gusts.
MONDAY: Mostly sunny. Lows in the 20s. Highs from the middle 30s to lower 40s.
TUESDAY: Mostly sunny. Lows in the 20s. Highs from the middle 40s to lower 50s.
DAYS 6-10 (NOVEMBER 22-26)
A cold front comes through dry November 22 just turning it breezy and colder again, lasting through the Thanksgiving holiday November 23. Moderating temperatures and mainly fair weather for “Black Friday” and the weekend November 24-26 though rain may arrive by the very end of the period.
DAYS 11-15 (NOVEMBER 27-DECEMBER 1)
Storm favoring rain November 27 followed by fair/colder, then moderating as November ends and December begins.
Current pattern deff does not favor good southern new England snow
I would rather have the first snow in December anyway. 🙂
Thank you TK
Daughters photos from our house yesterday when fog arrived as sun appeared. I think my favorite is sun hitting cloud. I thought ir was a snow capped mountain at first
https://i.imgur.com/kkCnmap.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cLZ1Xuy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8rvEAU6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DhJOB2J.jpg
Nice pictures Vicki!
Thank you, Scott. I keep telling her she has a future in photography. Nice to see you here. I hope you and your family are well!
Very nice photos Vicki! Is Sutton a low lying valley area? I ask because of the fog. I don’t believe there was any fog here in Boston yesterday in spite of the rain.
We are about 406 ft and at the top of a small hill. We have a lot of surrounding water so I suspect that may have played a part. My daughter in Uxbridge is about 250 feet and I was surprised we had more fog than she did.
Nice.
Thanks TK
Thank you TK! Happy to read that the rain tomorrow is going to arrive later in the day. Maybe we will stay dry for the parade in Plymouth.
Keeping my fingers crossed, Sue. I’m I remembering incorrectly or did it rain last year?
We have actually lucked out the last few years with the weather. I figure that luck has to run out sooner or later. 🙂
No rain until well after.
Good morning and thank you TK.
CRAZY day at work. Everyone want something NOW!!!
Thanks TK.
It’s a fairly potent storm that will be passing to our west late tomorrow and Sunday. Progressive though, doesn’t look like any issues in terms of heavy rain. Wind may be the biggest concern, I would expect a wind advisory at least in SE MA Saturday night into Sunday.
I think we flip to a block briefly around the final 5 days of the month, but it literally may be a few days and then opens up again. Will probably be good for a rainstorm (mountain snow) around November 27.
ECMWF has a different solution on its 00z run but I’m currently not buying it. I think it over-strengthened the PV.
I think that’s reasonable, long range is really tricky at the moment. Lot of transitions, and we’re not getting the classic La Nina pattern to lock in at the moment. Looks more like an El Nino pattern on the weekly guidance heading into early December. Tough to pin much down even in a very broad sense beyond a couple weeks out.
Last La Nina did something similar, with more of an El Nino look to it.
I’m going to be gambling a lot ignoring guidance the next couple weeks.
Hello peanutbutter & jellyspoons (ladies & gentlemen .. don’t ask). I’m on this account for a few hours then back to WHW after my doctor appointment mid afternoon! Kinda short-changed y’all on the forecast today but it’s basically just an edit of yesterdays. I saw a few differences in guidance I did not agree with so I went with persistence.
Vicki…
Your daughter should seriously go into photography, in my opinion.
I agree with TK.
Thank you TK and Sue. She posts a lot of her photos on FB. Her husband gave her the camera for her birthday and she just took off. Mac’s talent. Certainly, not mine. Son has the talent also and had thought about a photography major at one point.
Its just a run, and its hr 240, but I’m guessing looking at the projected isobars and 850 mb wind flow, that on this run, northern New England would be seeing snow on this day with snow showers rotating into even southern areas of New England ?? Perhaps ??
Oh ….. just saw hr 216 …. guessing this time frame projects some decent snowfall in most of interior, southern New England.
(Euro)
PLEASE see below for something interesting.
btw, it showed 1/2 inch for Marshfield.
TK – Any chance that brief block you mentioned could result in a sneaky snow event or will it end up just cold & dry?
Probably 1 rain event.
I believe Ch. 5’s Randy Price et al will be hosting the parade in Plymouth. Does the morning team host it every year? Just curious.
Yes they do. I happen to be carrying the banner for them tomorrow. My coworkers and I were also on the Eye Opener this week. 🙂
Nice! Have a good time! 🙂
Ohhhh darn I wish I’d known. I would have loved to see it
Logan only 0.19 inch yesterday. I was expecting a good half inch or more like most of the surrounding area.
I got 0.27 at my house, or at least that is what the gauge was reporting.
One of the TV mets showed a list of towns outside of Boston with a lot more…relatively speaking.
I believe the Cape got a good amount as well.
Well if someone will take a look at this
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=us&pkg=T850&runtime=2017111712&fh=216&xpos=0&ypos=420
Hour 216……. way to mess with my project, I warned my group, they did not listen.
Matt, please see below speaking of taking a look!
TOM,
Regarding your post of the EURO.
At the end of the run, the SNOW totals for that final event for a few selected areas
of my choice are: (This is from my service. I make no claims to the validity or accuracy
of these numbers. Just reporting what it shows)
Boston (Logan): 3.8 inches
Brookline: 6.1 inches
Woburn: 12.2 inches
Burlington, MA: 13.1 inches
Worcester: 13.2 inches
Sutton, MA: 11.0 inches
So as depicted it would be primarily an inland event, however, as the winds
turn North, the snows collapses right to the coast. 😀
Yeah sure, like this is going to happen. 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀
Oh no! I’m gonna get 12.2 inches in a week! Well at least I don’t have to measure since I already know my exact amount. 🙂
Now don’t go shooting the messenger. I was relaying what my
service displayed. That is all. I had plenty of caveats. 😀
I am more than happy with 11
Perfect number JPD
Thanks JpDave. Was wondering what that projection was spitting out in terms of snow.
12z Euro is only a mere 180 degree flip from the 12z run yesterday. Have I mentioned the models are struggling with this pattern 😉
You and someone else significant.
BUT, sure would like to see that solution. 😀
Today’s is probably incorrect.
12z EURO solution will not happen though would be nice if you love snow.
18Z NAM windiest time is Sunday 7AM or thereabouts
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2017111718&time=INSTANT&var=GUSTM&hour=042
18Z GFS has strongest wind a bit farther to the South and East
http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-php/showmap-conussfc.php?run=2017111718&time=INSTANT&var=GUSTM&hour=042
I know its probably wrong since its over a week out. Just fun to look at
gfs has the two areas of energy but the southern and northern energies do not come in contact as the southern is like a day ahead of the northern energy.
There ya go.
It is kind of pointless though to look for mid winter type events in mid to late November. It’s still autumn. Even in a cold pattern we don’t usually get all that snowy for quite a while yet. They are still far more the exception than the rule.
However, I see the Frog Pond is open the earliest in its history and the ski season is off to a great start. But last year I observed and heard many people saying we never get early ski seasons any longer. What they are forgetting is that the weather can be highly variable and we just happened to have several mild late autumns and early winters in a row.
True, but we look anyway.
And I for one…or maybe a few….love just seeing what could be
Life is made of what could be and what ifs.
Oh I do too. And I’m not really talking about anyone here. Just a general comment about what I see on the net. I’ve already seen comments on pages about how we haven’t gotten any snow yet this winter. Winter? Ok..
general public considers Late November- early march in many locations of the country
Yes but in mid November they are already talking about what kind of winter we are having, or have had. That’s completely inaccurate. Even late November? Still autumn. You can make a valid argument about December 1 being winter because of the meteorological definition, but anything before that. Nope.
Totally agree.
Ohhh. I don’t pay a lot of attention to outside of whw. Well, maybe Eric. But only when it gets close. Until then…I love this
Also ski season is off to a good start because of the snow making tech now out. Also there is major competition with vail now owning Stowe. Many places in New England hate them and rightfully so. I hate Vail as well. I am not going to Stowe this year almost 95% certain of that.
Loved skiing Vail when I was out there a few years ago. Nothing in the east compares.
My dad said the same except perhaps Washington. I always had the sense, though, that he preferred the eastern type of snow and technique
Middleboro 27, Stoneham 14!!!
The Sachems will play Littleton at Gillette the first weekend of December.
Wow. Awesome.
I was able to listen to the entire game from my house, the sound system was CRANKED. 🙂
24.4 this morning in JP in the wee hours, 4 AM to be precise.
As fully expected, the 0Z Euro Lost the big snow event for the 25th,26th that the
12Z showed yesterday. What a surprise. 😀
Now the 0Z run shows a “close” call on the 28th.
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=ecmwf®ion=us&pkg=mslpa&runtime=2017111800&fh=240&xpos=0&ypos=200
Perhaps that will work itself into something?? NAH, no chance.
Should work itself into a mainly rain event for Nov 27.
Shhhhhhhh
Pretty cool photo of the moon that I came across and thought I would share.
https://imgur.com/a/TivqY
Truly lovely. Thanks JPD
I hate to be the bubble burster but the image is not legit…
It would be if the moon was about to crash into the earth, however.
New post!