4:08AM
DAYS 1-5 (DECEMBER 2-6)
As we often see, some areas got pretty much what was expected, and others saw a few surprises. For the most part, the first burst of the long-duration storm behaved close to expectation with least snow southeast and more to the north and west. We saw uneven mixing that was driven by precipitation intensity in some cases. But now that part is done and we’re in a long lull with spotty light precipitation through the day today, and then the second burst comes along as what was once the original low pressure to the west triggers a new storm offshore, caught under upper level low pressure briefly so that it does a loop off our eastern shore tonight and early Tuesday. A band or two of moderate to heavy snow will be associated with this and the orientation of the low as it does its loop will determine how much of this band backs into eastern areas, as colder air will have already arrived. Some guidance predicts some pretty heavy amounts, while other guidance keeps the heaviest offshore. Will split the difference somewhat and call for heaviest on the Capes (Ann & Cod) a light to moderate amount over the NH Seacoast and eastern MA, and much less in areas to the southwest and west. Then finally, we’ll be rid of that system, which will leave breezy and cold weather in its wake later Tuesday. The next trough swings through with a snow shower threat later Wednesday to early Thursday with additional storminess occurring too far offshore for any direct impact, and cold air is just reinforced as that takes place. By Friday, a strong cold front will approach and may trigger snow showers or snow squalls by late in the day or the evening.
The forecast details…
TODAY: Overcast. Periods of drizzle and patchy light rain except freezing or frozen drizzle and possible light snow over the interior.
Highs 32-37 interior, 38-43 coast. Wind E to NE 5-15 MPH.
TONIGHT: Cloudy. Mix to snow coast, may be heavy at times. Lighter snow interior. Additional snow accumulation 1-3 inches interior, 3-5 inches coastal areas except 5-9 inches possible Cape Ann & outer Cape Cod. Wind NE to N 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
TUESDAY: Mostly cloudy with snow showers morning. Partly sunny afternoon. Highs 32-39. Wind N to NW 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
TUESDAY NIGHT: Mostly clear. Icy areas on untreated surfaces. Lows 22-29. Wind NW 10-20 MPH, diminishing.
WEDNESDAY: Increasing clouds. Possible snow showers afternoon. Highs 33-40. Wind variable up to 10 MPH.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT: Mostly cloudy. Possible snow showers. Lows 25-32. Wind variable up to 10 MPH.
THURSDAY: Partly sunny. Chance of snow showers early. Highs 33-40. Wind N 10-20 MPH.
THURSDAY NIGHT: Partly cloudy. Lows 23-30. Wind W 5-15 MPH.
FRIDAY: Partly sunny. Late day snow showers/squalls possible. Highs 33-40. Wind W 10-20 MPH, higher gusts.
DAYS 6-10 (DECEMBER 7-11)
Shot of cold air with wind but dry weather December 7. High pressure slides to the south with a westerly breeze, chilly but dry weather December 8. Milder with cloudiness increasing December 9 on a southwesterly flow with high pressure offshore. Mild with possible rain showers from approaching cold front December 10. Windy, cold weather returns at the end of the period behind the front.
DAYS 11-15 (DECEMBER 12-16)
Low pressure brings a precipitation threat later December 12 to December 13 followed by fair, colder weather mid period and a risk of snow showers with an approaching trough late in the period.
https://stormhq.blog/2019/12/02/weekly-outlook-december-2-8-2019/?fbclid=IwAR21CThlIbOZIQQP6XIMhamAw5me3-o6ZqYmfV0A8V2_FtmiNCcoXWov0n8
That’s SAK’s weekly blog update…
Thanks Tk pretty minor event this end of the city .
Tk is it in Boston before commute time or later . I’m hoping to head home as I’ve been here since 2pm yesterday . As always thank you .
I ask because there seems to be different times I’m hearing 10 pm
Ch 5 calling for 3-6 in the city tonight going to about noontime tomorrow.
9.5” round one
Thanks, TK…
Cyber and Backlash Monday!
In case you didn’t have enough this past weekend, this is what you have waiting for you at the end of the driveway!:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51eJ3-h86JQ
Enjoy the day, everyone, and be safe!
is the NWS Boston out of theirs minds? they are predicting ADDITIONAL 8 to 12 inches of snow in my area in Reading and 6 to 8 in Boston. they just posted tbis on Facebook an hour ago.
I don’t know about light spotty rain/drizzle. It is raining pretty good here in JP
with temp at 38.
https://radblast.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=BOX&brand=wui&num=10&delay=15&type=N0R&frame=0&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&showstorms=0&mapx=400&mapy=240¢erx=400¢ery=240&transx=0&transy=0&showlabels=1&severe=0&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&smooth=0&rand=26254789&lat=0&lon=0&label=you
Snow Box Totals. As always, watch the time stamp.
https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&product=PNS&issuedby=BOX
Quite a range in some counties.
Thanks TK !
Back to school 🙂
Indeed!
I notice the wind at the harbor buoy is 050 and backing slowly. I notice Portland, ME and Portsmouth, NH have due north winds and are in the upper 20s. Wonder if a surge of chillier air works into the north shore and Boston later this morning ???????
Yes and I am not surprised at all. Good observation as per usual.
Thanks TK and everyone for all the info. Following this storm from London where we are on holiday. Flying back to Boston tomorrow, so I’m following the Logan forecast. We arrive 6 pm but our flight could be affected if the incoming plane is delayed by the snow. If today’s flight is the standard, then this plane will be coming from JFK.
So airport forecasts most welcome…
You should be fine. Any snow tomorrow should be over by 10 am.
Just curious. Any teachers here on WHW have a snow day today? 🙂
Thanks TK. 8.5 for Sutton. No school but it was called early last evening
Light snow in south Sutton. Enough to sugar coat areas SIL just shoveled
Temp has remained absolute at 30 except for a very short time at 31 late last night.
Exactly the same on the north side of town.
Thanks TK
Back to snow right now after hours of icing after the initial burst of snow.
https://i.imgur.com/tIzBgr7.jpg
Snowfall forecasts for the second part of the storm including the new NWS map
Thank you doctor
was raining at about 645am and then changed back to snow around 7am in North Reading….has been snowing ever since
It is a picture perfect December day.
Every day is a picture perfect day!
So true. But some just take your breath away. I’d say for me this is one of them.
12Z HRRR indicating a pretty big time event and changing to snow in Boston around
6PMish. And I get the feeling that it may be a bit earlier than that.
https://imgur.com/a/R4C5o9i
NAM has it changing back to snow in Boston Around 1PM.
NAM retrogrades in a cyclonic loop coming back towards the coast and
UNLOADS on us!!!
Yikes. Im planning for 2 more inches in Sutton. Are you saying we might have yet another surprise.
See below
Sutton looks like another 4-7 inches or so.
Again, this is ONE model.
I hope so. Too much cold rain in the last few weeks for my liking.
I hope that doesn’t verify because that will be a nightmare commute. Wasn’t it the NAM yesterday at one point giving boston 20 inches?
12Z NAM Kuchera Snow for tonight
https://imgur.com/a/dRTaed0
12Z HRRR Kuchera snow
https://imgur.com/a/FhzbjVT
12Z NAM 3KM (this has development a bit farther off shore, but
still delivers about 6 inches to Boston)
https://imgur.com/a/Wu0TjnJ
I guess this is one of the reasons ranges are given.
JPD, just curious. How much snow for you yesterday? Good ole Logan had 1.2” fwiw.
At least they got their first inch. I don’t know if it’s already past their average date or right on target.
2.5 inches. 1.75 then a brief period of rain and then 0.75 inches of pure
slop. Moderate to Heavy snow that was unbelievably wet and only accumulated
at 1/4 inch per hour for a total of 3/4 inch additional for a 2.5 inch total.
Thanks. You should easily be well ahead of Logan come March. 🙂
Radar shows a very sharp, distinct rain-snow line literally over the 95 corridor from Providence to Boston to Cape Ann. I don’t recall ever seeing it in quite this manner before. Usually it at least bulges back a bit towards 495.
Picturesque snow falling out my window. Snow really isn’t accumulating much. Will see if that changes later.
I don’t think it ever changed to rain in Amesbury. Snowing lightly right now with a temp of 30. Looks like a good 8-9 inches from last night. Definitely a slight over performance up here. A 2-hour delay for school opening and parents were not happy. Many did not send their kids.
Wind has gone to NNE to N at logan and temp has dropped to 37.
Rain/snow line ready to collapse?
Appears so.
Looking at some of the short range models I am going to miss out on the heavy band of snow which will be west of me in the Hudson River Valley of NY. Shift a little east please.
Turned to snow here in Westwood around 10. Good obs Tom. Accumulating on cars and existing snowpack. Roads wet. We are in for it tonight.
Thanks for the update Arod.
If I didn’t say it already, it is so nice to see you here once again.
Thanks JPDave. Always enjoyed your passion and enthusiasm for winter weather!
Ditto and ditto.
12Z GFS not as bullish….
Map shortly.
12Z GFS Kuchera Snow
https://imgur.com/a/K7Qlqtq
Still a good 8-12 for Boston:)
That is such a fine line. I do not envy TV mets as far as this goes. When does the GFS say for the timing of this?
Agreed
12Z RDPS Kuchera Snow
https://imgur.com/a/8VZv3tv
Seeing some consistency here but still high bust potential given the sharp gradient.
Coastal low got some action with it offshore of NJ
Tweet from meteorologist Mike Masco
https://twitter.com/MikeMasco/status/1201531247304073217
http://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en#m=oss;t=3;s=0;o=0;b=;ts=0;y=37.5794;x=-72.9382;z=6;d=2;dl=2;dc=0;
Lightning strikes off the NJ coast.
That is in the area of that possible waterspout Mike Masco was talking about. Posted his tweet above. This coastal low looks to be getting its act together.
Where I am just a little bit snow has picked up and starting to stick to the pavement.
Special Marine Warning for that storm.
https://www.weather.gov/phi/
I wonder if WxWatcher is on duty this morning.
Kind of get the idea that there might be overnight snow, followed by a slight pre-dawn ease or even lull (Intensification and contracting of storm and associated precip), followed by a 5am to 10am pounding along the coastline, up to 20 or so miles inland ???? I think its that loop that backs the heavy band over eastern areas.
I am wondering if someone will get thunder snow. Last night up in Winsted and Colebrook CT there was thunder snow.
Lots of thunder snow through MA also. Apparently some in Sutton which doesn’t surprise me given the rate of 3 inches an hour at one point. I didn’t hear any tho
12z GDPS (CMC – Canadian) Kuchera Snow
https://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gdps/2019120212/084/snku_acc.us_ne.png
Would a general 6-12 inches be a reasonable range for overnight into tomorrow?
Sounds reasonable to me with emphasis on the 6-8 inches with a town or two in northeast MA and just to the southwest of the city receiving upwards of a foot.
Latest snow map from NWS
https://www.weather.gov/images/box/winter/StormTotalSnow.png
Actually looks very reasonable to me.
Forgot to post the 7 day forecasts for the week: https://i.imgur.com/VqJPoiL.jpg
Thanks for doing this, Dr. S!
Very informative!
F5 Weather snow from various 12Z model runs (Euro was 0Z last night as it is not
ready yet)
https://imgur.com/a/tYUrlAu
Wow. That’s quite the difference between each. Choose your bias and pick one. Haha
We have had snizzle for a few hours. Temp up to 32 did the trick. The dusting this am plus the snizzle has made an ice rink out of the driveways, walkways and street.
Logan temp has suddenly jumped from 37 to 41 and wind veered more to the NE.
Not ready to switch just yet. 🙂
HRRR says about 6 PM give or take for Boston, earlier N&W
My Radascop precipitation depiction display is showing the rain/snow line
“just” barely West of the city?????
Intellicast radar as well.
https://s.w-x.co/staticmaps/wu/wxtype/county_loc/hfd/animate.png
Snizzle here. And a strong wind from the East
Can confirm looking at my radarscope…. It’s like the ocean air is battling to keep it just warm enough that boston stays rainy. As mentioned earlier I do not envy meteorologists who face the public. A few stations said we don’t see snow until later tonight after the PM commute. If we even see a few flakes I bet people complain lol
From NWS
.SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM TUESDAY/…
**Developing Comma-head likely brings a second round of
accumulating snow especially eastern MA**
Many more ingredients for significant snowfall fall into place
tonight, particularly across eastern MA. Surface low pressure is
expected to move into the Gulf of Maine and intensify as it does
so. This places portions of eastern MA within range of a
frontogenetical band, and maximizes lift and moisture within the
snow growth region. Precipitation intensity and time of day will
insure snow is the predominant type north of the Cape Cod
Canal. Across southeastern MA and portions of RI some sleet
should mix in. Rain is the predominant type across the Cape and
islands until very late tonight.
Looking like advisory level snow accumulation tonight,
especially after midnight. Should everything come together just
right, locally higher amounts may reach warning levels. Not
enough confidence in these details at this time.
Good discussion. Comma-head sounds like a rare insult.
It now appears to be more and more likely. 🙂
http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/SAT_US/animwv.html
Amazing graphic. Thank you.
Thanks Tom for posting.
My pleasure Longshot and Vicki.
I wonder what the 12z EURO has for snowfall projections into tomorrow morning.
On one hand, at hr 24, the surface low looks further east.
Yet, at hr 24, there’s pretty good, moist NE flow at 850mb along with 850 temps of -2 to -5C.
Probably a light to moderate hit in eastern sections would be my guess …….
12z EURO snowfall
https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?rh=2019120212&fh=30&dpdt=&mc=&r=us_ne&p=sn10_acc&m=ecmwf_full
Thanks JJ !
Well …… being in snow bands that are not as heavy may keep accumulations a bit lower than models are showing, because some part of the cold air associated with this feature is coming from higher in the column.
So, without the heaviest precip, it might be 30F to 33F, as opposed to being perhaps 28F to 30F if there were very heavy snowfall rates.
Maybe this will help with the roads a bit, especially after sunrise tomorrow.
So with any luck there will be school tomorrow!
https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar_lite.php?rid=OKX&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
Now mixing here in Boston.
has been snowing lightly all day up here in North Reading, maybe another inch or so added since this morning…everything is coated with snow, it could not look any more like a Winter Wonderland
Storm sure is intense and starting to take shape. We have seen sets up like this in the past and boy do they usually crush us in eastern mass.
I just wonder what this might deliver.
Could be an over acheiver, who knows.
Either way, likely to get something out of it.
been mixing in JP for an hour.
was almost all snow for a minute then back to mix. temp 36
Here it’s back-and-forth between mix and rain depending on intensity.
re: Euro
that was initialized at 7 AM.
I wonder if things have changed since then??
Wind now back to north at Logan. 40F
F5 Weather snow totals
https://imgur.com/a/sYLHRIF
snowing pretty good in Reading even thought Radar doesn’t show it. Rain/snow line in wundergorund radar. shows rain over my area when its actually snowing
Looking via radarscope looks like you’re right on the mix line https://i.imgur.com/Snpjqh1.jpg
Been snowing all day in Weatwood. Now snowing steadily.
Good read here.
https://www.boston.com/news/weather/2019/12/02/boston-tv-meteorologists-viewer-complaints
Awesome article. I will share on FB if you don’t mind. Not that it seems to make any difference judging by the silly comments at the end. Sheeeshhh
Good read. Going to avoid the comments on the article per vicki’s disgust.
Just drove from JP to Newton.
In Jp slight mix, entering Brookline, strong mix, In Brookline at Putterham Circle, all snow. in Newton, Newton Street near Needham line, all snow and accumulating. Roads all slush covered. 33 out here..Vis down under 1 mile, but sone may be fog.
We’re gunna have to retrofit your car with radars and high tech gear and have you drive around during storms and give live reports.
I would absolutely love that.
Heading home now. Hope it is all snow there now.
snow filling up nicely in north central mass while it’s dry slotted here. I hope the bands later don’t miss us to the west or east
Agree. Back to snow here but very light. Temp down to 31 from 33
In heavy precip here, seeing a bit of mixture on the windshield.
Wonder if these 2 bands are going to be what evolves this afternoon and overnight, slowly pivoting around …..
If so, where do they set up shop ?
hrr actually has a band just to the west of my area in central and western middlesex county and then another one in southeastern mass. acrually shows me right in the middle of it lol. the storm does look like it makes a loop to the southwest. right whem the precipitation exists, it pushes west again
Dry slot where I am.
Home Again. Snow line advanced Eastward about 2-3 miles. Was snowing in JP when I crossed into JP from Brookline, but 1,000 feet down the road at home, it was raining/slight mix. I can’t win for nothing. Temp down to 34.
Boundary layer is still a tad warm from the marine influence overnight. The second the intensity picks up, assuming it does, it will be INSTANT SNOW!!!!
You’re wishing too hard so the universe is keeping it at bay from your house.
The universe has always kept me at bay. This is nothing new.
18z NAM down to about 7 1/2 inches fro Boston Overnight.
3KM NAM up to 8.2 inches for Boston. Something is up.
We’ve been under the influence of that ocean effect snow band just to the south of Boston. Been snowing all day. Didn’t accumulate much as ratios are too low but everything including the trees are pasted with snow.
I saw that in Newton.
Not sure exact time of changeover, but it is NOW officially snowing at my house in JP. Lightly for sure, but SNOW it is!!! Only took nearly 4 hours to changeover.
18Z 3KM NAM Kuchera Snow
https://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/nam4km/2019120218/060/snku_acc.us_ne.png
18Z NAM snow
https://imgur.com/a/xlqQlWh
18Z RDPS
https://maps3.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/rdps/2019120218/048/snku_acc.us_ne.png
We are now seeing some model divergence on how instense and how close this
system gets tonight.
Now me thinks that 4-8 inches is the correct call, in fact, I heard that on
the radio.
I also heard on the radio (don’t remember the station, perhaps WERS?)
that the rain would change to snow around 11PM tonight. NOPE!
You’re officially the Shelby Scott of WHW, reporting on snow, mix, and rain conditions in and around the city and suburbs.
Well, when I am out and about, sure.
Is it snow yet in the back bay? Light snow here in JP.
Just had a conference call with work and our Disaster Recovery manager reported that it will turn to snow around 2 am.
Getting ready Round 2
Is it snow on the Hospital campus? It’s snowing down the road in JP.
4-8 inches looks reasonable at this point, barring any additional changes.
WPC depiction through Tuesday PM in 6 hours increments. Looks pretty impressive
to me.
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/basicwx/92fndfd.gif
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/basicwx/93fndfd.gif
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/basicwx/94fndfd.gif
https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/basicwx/95fndfd.gif
Eastern MA now under a Winter Storm Warning. 6-9 inches
https://www.weather.gov/box/
https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=box&wwa=winter%20storm%20warning
Snowing Harder here now with bigger flakes mixed in.
18Z GFS is WIMPING out on us!!!!
https://maps1.pivotalweather.com/maps/models/gfs/2019120218/066/snku_acc.us_ne.png
There’s Always a party pooper!
Latest SREF Ensemle mean snow for Boston: 6.05 inches with
Member High of: 10.31 inches
and
Member Low of: 2.13 inches
BPS closed Tuesday.
I was just going to post that. I hope this event doesn’t wimp out. Boston will go until June 30 to make up snow days. In fact, one year the last day was just that very date!
with my kind of luck, a bust or wimp is nearly a certainty. Hope not. We shall see.
getting pretty white here as all is covered once again.
I’m thinking I am going to get 6″ up here on north shore.
I want to get in on this second round.
Maybe NONE of us do. 🙂 🙂 🙂
see below.
Still lightning to our South
https://www.lightningmaps.org/?lang=en#y=41.2117;x=-73.7732;z=6;t=3;m=oss;r=0;s=0;o=0;b=;n=0;d=2;dl=2;dc=0;ts=0;
Talk about Party Poopers! Here it comes, the 21Z RAP hot off the press.
Main action is OFF-SHORE! )(!@&#&!@(*^$*!&@(*#&(!*@&#*!&@#*
https://imgur.com/a/RGELUc6
Light accumulation over night on the back edge of explosive off-shore system.’
Can you hear TK chuckling?????
A snow day in Boston for NOTHING?
I saw your comment above. As it stands now with no snow says June 19 is Boston’s 180 day. With a snow day they’d just go to June 20. No?
Nope…I think TK is smarter than to chuckle. The back end has always been a difficult call. And last night overachieved. I think the Mets as a whole have done great.
Let’s see what tonight brings.
So many mixed signals …..
18z 3km NAM has a pretty solid hit for eastern areas …..
Looking at the dry air in southern Maine, dewpoint depressions even showing up in Essex County.
Sfc temps marginal for easy accumulations, if bands of snow aren’t heavy.
Ive gone back and forth in my head the last few hours on whether we see 1″ or 7″ 🙂 🙂
Bust potential has always been there for this. This storm is a tricky hobbitses.
11” cumulative so far. We’ll see what happens from here. Steady snow now
Nada here. Enjoy retrac.
Finally legit snow falling here, albeit very lightly.
Spent the day better securing our house and my identity.
Just had a heavy band pound us for about 40 mins and picked up about 1 inch to add to last nights 6″
Still a ways to go to achieve the 26″ the ECMWF wanted to give me 72 hours ago but I can say this I will study the origins and synoptic environment for this one in the days and weeks to come.
I can’t recall where you are. I have a security company here that we had in framingham. Not a big name and after all is installed monthly fee is limited
Or maybe you are all set
He’s in the Pioneer Valley…Amherst area I believe.
Ahhh. Too far. Thanks, Mark.
Saw your post yesterday JMA and really sorry to hear. That is scary stuff. Glad to hear everyone is safe.
Went from pretty much nothing to a whole lot of something here in a short period of time.
Frustrating storm here in my area. Received 2.8” of cement in Coventry, CT last night. Lots of sleet after the initial snow burst and the sleet came down hard at times. I despise sleet….what a pain to clear.
This afternoon, we had light snow on and off here at the office most of the day. Pretty to look at but no accumulation. Now CT is in a big dry slot with snow falling to our west, north and east. Though it does look like it is trying to fill in.
Vicki, I cant believe how much snow you received last night. Big increase in snow totals not very far north of me with many 8-9″ reports along and north of the CT/MA line. We just missed out on this one and likely are going to have a similar fate tonight. I’ll be happy if we can pull off a couple more inches.
And you are so darned close fo me. Go figure
Indeed, you are not too far to my northeast. Usually our snow, rain, and temp observations are pretty close. Latitude was a big factor with this storm.
Pretty good snow moving into my area.
Down to 30 and everything is covered, including the streets.
is that snowhole in Northeastern mass going yo fill up ever lol? it’s frusturating. mark i can only feel you pain since you got shafted thr most in this storm
Thanks. You win some, you lose some. Hoping for a pleasant surprise tonight, but not expecting it 🙂
Nice shot of the snow Meteorologist Darren Sweeny showed on twitter of my hometown Watertown, CT.
https://twitter.com/DarrenSweeney/status/1201625516299735042/photo/1
Lovely.
Furthering my frustration, Eastern NY has gotten absolutely crushed. It has basically been snowing non-stop at my mother’s house since the moment we left yesterday around lunchtime. As of 4PM, she had 19″ on the ground and still several more hours of snow yet to come. I would have stayed longer if we could.
Portions of Albany, Schenectady and Saratoga Counties are up to 2 feet, as are the higher elevations of the southern Green Mtns. NWS Albany now calling for localized 30″ amounts by the time all is said and done.
There are the latest snow reports….
https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=ALY&product=PNS&format=CI&version=1&glossary=0
Mark I hear your frustration. CT got the shaft with this one with the exception of near the Massachusetts boarder. All I got was 2 inches then ice which was the case most of last winter.
Well at least we have something. I cant believe there is not even a snow cover in the photo from Woodbridge you posted above.
Mark HRRR and RAP seem to be the most aggressive when it comes to snowfall for inland CT. Officially at BDL 5.5 inches so it won’t be a snowless December and if the HRRR is correct BDL will have above normal snowfall for December.
You never know, this storm could have a few more surprises left. HRRR would imply a good 7 hours or so of snow here. We’ll see if part 2 can exceed part 1.
looking at the radar near albany. it is crazy there with yellow echoes. why are they getting all the snow and moisture and we are not? are they closer to the low/ energy? i think rhe 2nd part will miss us to the east. 22z hrrr hinted at it and whatever jp dave posted and of course tk.
I can’t believe the beating that area is taking either. At one point Saturday, all 4 models I looked at had a 26″ bullseye over the Capital District. I did not think it would actually verify.
Often that area actually is in a snow hole due to shadowing in the Hudson River Valley. The only times growing up there I can recall 20″+ snowstorms is when we got in the outer F-gen bands of a coastal storm. This was a much more atypical setup. I’d be very interested to hear a meteorological explanation as to what caused this.
From 37 to 34 in just a short while. Just about ready to change over.
I’m surprised at the sharp cutoff mark, usually you and I are very close in snow totals but it seems like that sleet line just halted at the mass/ct border. A lot of times when you post that your mixing or changing over, I know it’s just a short time after that it happens here.
This whole storm has fascinated me……the multiple low redevelopments, the 48 hours of continuous snow pounding the same area relentlessly, and that warm bubble that came up in CT last night was literally that. Areas to the west, east and north of me received considerably more snow…the surprise being areas to my east like northern RI and Arod who received the heavier totals from Part 1. Bizarre storm all around.
Snowing in northern CT but I am still in this doughnut hole.
Snow has recommenced here… surfaces are getting coated again.
Don’t think i remembered to post this at 4pm when I put it together of the updated forecasts for snow https://i.imgur.com/aVUdv0n.jpg
Short range models showing the band mostly offshore. Tough call for schools to make.
Just salting as of now not sticking totally
YES!!!! Dry slot over for me back in the snow.
Everything is wet
this has a big potential bust if the hrrr is right. boston might not even get 2 inches.
Latest HRRR bullish on snow for the I-84 corridor in CT and north of Hartford. Will see if it pans out. I need to catch up some in the snow department.
stole it from us
Mother Nature trying to be fair to everyone. Snow coming down good and pavement getting covered.
Probably more just nowcast and see what happens.
Just very light snow here now.
Been snowing for 4 hours and 1/2 inch
Anyone hear from TK?
He’s good sue he had a busy day
While this is an interesting long series of storms, it’s produced almost nothing in Boston. I’ve had perhaps 1.75 inches in total. The first 1.25 inches are gone. The half inch that has fallen over a 4 hour period looks nice. But, it’s not “winter storm warning” worthy. And, I expect that to continue, alas, as we’ll probably only have very light snow overnight. For the heavier stuff go to Spectacle Island and way further east.
I don’t think BPS should have already announced today that schools would close tomorrow. I think these announcements should be done early tomorrow morning if and only if they’re warranted. I don’t think it’ll be warranted in this instance.
They can’t do it in the morning. Too big of a decision and I hear it was negotiated with the teachers union.
While you all are enjoying the first snowfall of the season, I hope that when I go home this weekend some of it is left. (saw that temps look to be above freezing so I am guessing very little.
Anyways, I been having consistent late afternoon/evening thunderstorms. Its kind of fun watching the storms move across the water with cloud to water lightning.
My room mate yelled at me get inside
There will be plenty left in your area when you get back. Looks like a chilly week. May even get another shot of snow Fri night/Sat AM if the GFS is correct.
Enjoy the rest of your time there and safe travels back!
I’m a frequent sports radio listener. It’s a stress reducer sometimes. I’ve kind of had it, though, with the negativity. I feel like calling and saying, “Boston fans, you do know your football team won a Superbowl 10 months ago and is highly competitive this year again, for the 20th straight season. Yes, the QB is declining, but he’s still very capable. And fans, you do know your Bruins made it to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup 5 months ago, and are a highly competitive team this year, currently enjoying a 7 game winning streak. And, fans, you do know the Red Sox won the World Series in historic fashion (with 108 regular season wins) 13 months ago, and after a disappointing season will likely be very competitive next year. And, you do know that the Celtics are doing better than expected and may go far in the playoffs. If you listen to the doom and gloom you’d think all the teams sucked. I find it aggravating, all this negativity. I know, I sound like Rick Pitino.
I get you. It’s a spoiled town now. Gotta remember a lot of these people either weren’t alive or weren’t sports fans in the 90’s.
Folk is on his way back the kicker was released
Just in case it’s helpful re: school
Closings – from a working mom’s perspective although I understand completely that the correct decision may not be clear until the morning of – it puts dual working families and single working parents in an impossible dilemma because “day of” childcare almost doesn’t exist. Not saying this to be snarky – just thought it might make more sense as to why there is such pressure to make the call the night before.
As I write this no word yet on my own son’s school – but luckily my husband can work from home if needed.
I think BDL will be adding to the storm total they have so far of 5.5 inches.
https://twitter.com/ryanhanrahan/status/1201676635566678021
00z HRRR has it snowing until 4AM in eastern CT and now is showing a heavier streak of 5-6″ accumulations in Hartford County through my area in Tolland County. HRRR trying to help us play catch up 🙂
It’s not showing more than an inch or two for eastern MA but hammers downeast Maine pretty good…
00z HRRR snowmap at 10:1….
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/?model=hrrr®ion=neus&pkg=asnow&runtime=2019120300&fh=25
Notice what it shows for the Boston Area? Just about NOTHING)(!@&#*&!(*@&#(*!&@(#*&!(@*#&(!*@&#*!&@(#*&(!*@#&(*!@&#(*!&@(*#&!(*@#&(*!@&#(*&!(*@#&(!*@&#(*!&@(#*&!(*@#&(*!&@#(*!&(@*#&(!*@#&*
Hmmm
HUGE discrepency between the short range Hi-Res models and the NAM. I mean HUGE.
I will compare some maps between the NAM and the HRRR in a few minutes. Waiting
for the NAM to get far enough out.
Which is it gonna be?????
Based on the radar echos I am seeing or should I say lack there of, I’m leaning
HRRR, RAP and RDPS.
It looks pretty out, but my burger looks whiter than this just from the salt I shake on it.
Perhaps a glimmer of hope.
Look at the end of this loop, specifically in the bottom right hand corner (SE).
See those ehcos moving NW. That’s our storm. Will they get up here? or stay off shore.
That is the million dollar question.
How about the loop?????
https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/northeast_loop.php
btw, it is down to 28 here in JP.
If that band sets up like it is in the picture I posted from Ryan Hanrahan’s twitter page the HRRR won’t be too far off with its snowfall projection.
Snow coming down hard at the office here in Manchester CT. Even heavier band setting up to my west from Waterbury to Hartford to BDL.
JJ. it looks like this very heavy stuff is about to pivot all the way back to your area.
Comparison of the 0Z HRRR and the 0Z NAM. This is the complete storm as they
both keep most of the action off-shore, but the NAM delivers more snow to coastal
areas than does the HRRR.
https://imgur.com/a/7f18Dfw
In short, I believe it will be very very difficult for Boston to reach anywhere within
the 6-9 range hoisted in the Winter Storm Warning by NWS.
This SMELLS BUST!!!!
So are we good in Boston till say 3am and then we get the snow till tomorrow afternoon.
Mark it is coming down big time right now. Catching up to interior MA. Looking at the HRRR the bullseye looks to be your area with around 9 inches of snow. This model might be on to something based on the current radar.
I am threading the needle in central Tolland County. HRRR showing 8″ a few miles west of me to 4″ or less a few miles east.
That said, even 4″ is more than I was expecting tonight. I’ll take it.
It looks like the Jolly Green Giant is just shaking dandruff out of his hair.
This is pathetic.
Wow this is impressive from BDL.
Tweet from Ryan Hanrahan
Wow! Heavy snow at BDL with 2″ in the last hour and 8″ on the ground. KBDL 030151Z 36016G25KT 1/4SM R06/1800V2400FT +SN FZFG VV004 M02/M03 A2955 RMK AO2 SLP008 SNINCR 2/8 P0011
Man I hope that band stays together for awhile. I don’t like the looks of this though with everything setting up so far west. Though its potentially good for you JJ….
Come on bring this here.
Tweet from Ryan Hanrahan
Exceptional snowfall rates underway in central CT. Driving is very very difficult now. Some towns could see at 6″-10″ of accumulation just from this evening’s burst.
WOW. Cant believe this thing is setting up so far west.
Isn’t this different from what still to come. This wasn’t modeled either earlier in the day.
This storm has had many surprises up its sleeve. Would not let your guard down in eastern MA!
oZ RAP
https://imgur.com/a/9NqqUrb
Too many models are saying NO!!!
We can’t buck this trend. It’s OVER,It’s OVER!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9JArvEJ64M
https://youtu.be/QiZdY9rw-uo
Beautiful here tonight. Closing in over an inch or so at this point.
Yeah the short range models are saying no way. Still think we get a big burst come the morning. Anyway fun as always.
21″ of snow on the ground now at my mother’s house in Amsterdam NY and still snowing. State of Emergency tonight in many towns in the Albany area.
This storm is now in the Top 10 all-time snowstorms in Albany which is impressive.
With this burst of snow my frustration level is going down from what it was earlier today.
It is downright nasty out. Snow and windy as s**t
So the heavy snow bands is just out to our west. then they will miss us to our east later. exactly what my fear was earlier. How does eastern mass get soo unlucky because the storm is too far west then east lol. look at that big Charlie hole up in northeastern mass and very light echoes. judging from this radar, the oart you see in the southeast section looks to slide to the east as it pivits. Yesterday i made a bold statement how boston might get 10 to 12 inches. If only i wrote 1.0 to 1.2 inches, my amounts would have verified:)
Oops here is the radar. I am glad jj and mark are doing good but look at that hole IN NE mass https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/radar_lite.php?rid=BOX&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
Here is a nice explanation from someone on a weather facebook page i follow about why the sudden east shift for tonight’s part. open the links in order.
https://scontent.fbos1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/79830367_2795322997165774_2877426705893425152_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ohc=d6fcy4mrxsEAQkgs38yiBhZhrvPZtrwmFptUNUcLRjuqlh2r7yvFFhzMA&_nc_ht=scontent.fbos1-2.fna&oh=019078611ccafafb973c5a5268047fa6&oe=5E7D969A
https://scontent.fbos1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78276701_2795325647165509_4194664730008223744_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ohc=pU30nQLoq98AQmIf15dE_MiJnu1gbu3PYtVPAd-YH7lb2xozD57UF14JQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fbos1-2.fna&oh=8147f529d9a8cb3833d4fa940f9e2619&oe=5E4069C2
https://scontent.fbos1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78603837_2795331937164880_3173790581872656384_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=G3rq6f9sqeMAQmR62Fob7-OArebqn72_VNNgcx7wTsZqPDEe2d_8KiH2Q&_nc_ht=scontent.fbos1-2.fna&oh=088eb0c30737b7d6a70483f5182d7751&oe=5E8B7221
https://scontent.fbos1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78895186_2795334220497985_2578823949362135040_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ohc=GNS5_EcXijgAQno5qlVeJuaWBIETsewG0xzMlTd0BxjeS8m7rmcGCZjeA&_nc_ht=scontent.fbos1-2.fna&oh=0177133b423d649650fd984e6ada6f5e&oe=5E75D3BE
https://scontent.fbos1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78104110_2795337710497636_4320581196758122496_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=tpbHweDgFK8AQl5Z_huEIbbjF2qWh4_XKYWKc0yGDO3tOoIEJvuWJg2Ig&_nc_ht=scontent.fbos1-1.fna&oh=640a6bb119d13fe8bbbcf0e997293e55&oe=5E708818
https://scontent.fbos1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/78904064_2795340397164034_6269138718569791488_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=35T48aNY7TwAQmREuOR0WRUBcnbE-rf6XkKGX1joXGhPxYtKesK34WoQw&_nc_ht=scontent.fbos1-2.fna&oh=f9296515a8de2e23e1b6a0d7a1327c5e&oe=5E8A0A57
It’s getting very cold & the wind .
My front yard. (Son decorated during T-giving visit during college break – I take NO credit)
https://imgur.com/Pz3YfBo
Great shot. Hope it still looks that way on Christmas!
looks like southeastern mass is getting hit good now.
Brockton down to Lakeville area has been getting hammered with ocean enhanced snow all night. Be interested to see some observations from down there….
BDL up to ten inches according to Ryan Hanrahan. I would not be surprised if they got to a foot of snow and that is starting meteorological winter off with a bang!!!
Ground is white but streets are pavement as it melts on contact in hingham currently. The white is a fine slush and looking at radarscope it resembles a jackson pollack painting and he decided to combine a nice magenta and blue over boston/quincy/Hingham…
All wet Roxbury/ Brookline & actually it’s barely doing anything.
Just light snow here in Coventry…..only about an inch new. Heavy band continues to orient west of me from BDL down to Waterbury and I think it is going to stay there until it dies out. My frustration level is increasing again…..
And the outer, outer band continues to pummel the Albany NY area. The rich just keep getting richer…unbelievable!!!
Wankum saying between 3 – 10 for Boston for the snow
Going with Nam 4-6
With the Seahawks win tonight the 49ers have gone from the #1 seed to the 5th seed.
10-2 49ers are a wild card team. That is unbelievable.
State workers (non emergency) delayed start: https://twitter.com/massgovernor/status/1201717031030198272?s=21
This is just putrid…..
Old salty what are your thoughts. I know you do not like Wankum but he is sticking with a heavy burst between 3-10 am .
Worcester Public Schools will make a decision this morning.
Radar starting to fill in better in many areas including Boston. Some very heavy echoes now off shore slowly pivoting in towards eastern MA.
Exactly Mark the snow is steadily picking. Up here in Boston
BDL continues to get hammered by that heavy band. 13.7″ now as of midnight and still pouring snow. 8″ of that has fallen just since 8PM tonight….incredible!
Finally ripping snow here pretty good too. Next few hours are my window to really rack up some accumulation
Snow really struggling to get into Boston right now. Snowing hard NW, SW, and SE of the City.
Yeah mark it started to look good than drastically slowed down . Boston is a big wildcard right now I guess
Mark you don’t have to say that twice. I been dry slotted for the whole day. everytime a band tries to pivot it just disappears. I wonder what thr science behind that is. it reminds me of the snowhole that happend in RI in 2013.
check this out.
https://www.wunderground.com/weather-radar/united-states/ma/boston/bos/?region=bml#
this storm does not like Boston or the northshore at all lol
But the biggest surprise of this storm was definitely you guys getting hammered.
Kane where are you again
Reading ma. Right next to Woburn in the Northshore
I think you should start to fill in a bit more in the next few hours.
I have not been getting hammered tonight here. I have only received 2″ today/tonight and am up to 4.8″ for a storm total. The heavy banding has set up 20 miles west of me towards BDL. It’s finally filled in and is pivoting towards me now but I am on borrowed time.
That outer band continues to pummel Albany as well though its coverage finally seems to be starting to shrink. Some of the final totals from that area are going to be staggering. Not only a top December storm but also one of the biggest of all-time for Albany. It had already reached #8 on the list much earlier this evening.
Hey Mark don’t you sleep lol
Not during snowstorms.
I couldn’t fall asleep during a heavy snow band if I tried 🙂
i cant sleep from a dry slot so yet alone a heavy snowband lol
You guys are funny . Lot of hours here I need my bed .
I’m exhausted too John but its still ripping here really good.
Picked up 1″ in the last 45 minutes, 3″ now on the night, and 5.8″ storm total.
This is the last gasp I think in the next hour. Back side of the heavier band is getting closer to me.
I am getting some work done here in between storm monitoring and measuring 🙂
Hospital weather service basically said the storm is heading out of town just like that lol
Just went outside to meet with plow guys. Very windy and cold. Temperature is 29 but wind chill has to be below 20. Snow is kind of frozen.
We seem to be dry slotted right now. Might stay that way!
Radar just completely filled in across the rest of Eastern MA. Looks like its coming down hard pretty much everywhere now.
Heavy burst in the city right now covering grounds
Getting hit now in Swampscott. Radar makes it look like it could be here for a while.
i founs the secret to get heavy snow. DON’T CHECK THE RADAR! i put my phone down to charge it. i cone back to check the radar and boom! now if only this band can stay over for 5 more hours (wishful thinking) ill be happy
It’s a solid blob of green on the radar with some heavier bands. To me, it looks further inland than anticipated.
It is absolutely RIPPING here again! Just when it looked like the outer band was getting ragging and moving out east, it solidified and backed in even further west. I am getting some of the heaviest snow I have had yet. Snowing at 1″/45 min.
Now 5″ on the night and 7.8″ storm total…..
5.7″ on the night now and 8.5″ total. Still snowing moderately and looks like we got a couple more hours of lighter snow to go. Going to get a few hours of sleep.
Good luck with everything John!
WOW all I can say about some of these snow bands in CT. At least 13.4 inches at BDL and I would not be surprised if this total goes up some.
If it is going to snow this much may as well set some records. Tweet from meteorologist Ryan Hanrahan
Looks like BDL’s 13.4″ of snow is the biggest snowstorm so early in the season in the Hartford area. 12.3″ in October 2011 is #2. There was a bigger 3 day total in November 1938 but it looks like that was from 2 separate storms. Just wild.
25 inches of snow reported in royalston Mass. wow
4” Hanover
No school in Middleborough or Taunton. Such intense bands through the area right now, there was no way we could have had classes this morning.
I was awakened with a call from my Boss. Our office is closed.
It was snowing like crazy several minutes ago, now nothing super, just light
to moderate snow. Looks like about 2 inches on the ground is all. I’ll measure
later.
Mesoscal discussion
https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/md/md2186.html
Stronger and lighter bands constantly rotating in and out. Maybe 3-5 hours more of this. Overnight temps below freezing all week.
15″ here. Some snow still to rotate through. Lets see what happens
Big snows or no in Boston, still an interesting first 3 days of December.
Not too bad for just starting out the month of December.
Let’s see how the Winter pans out.
Right now, NOT impressed by the snow intensity at all. NOT.
For heavens sake just sit back and enjoy the first wide spread snow of the season.
whatever you say boss.
Just woke up because of a loud plow. Ugh. I need more sleep. I don’t think governor baker will call off work today I think he will stick to the delayed 10 oclock opening.
According to 11Z HRRR, our heaviest snow should be from 11AM to 1PM after which
it diminishes rapidly.
https://imgur.com/a/uI3csDQ
More coastal JPD?
Yup
Logan 7 AM obs
Boston, Logan International Airport, MA
(KBOS) 42.36056N 71.01056W
2 Day History
Light Snow
31.0 °F
Last Updated: Dec 3 2019, 6:54 am EST
Tue, 03 Dec 2019 06:54:00 -0500
Weather: Light Snow
Temperature: 31.0 °F (-0.6 °C)
Dewpoint: 26.1 °F (-3.3 °C)
Relative Humidity: 82 %
Wind: from the North at 17.3 gusting to 23.0 MPH (15 gusting to 20 KT)
Wind Chill: 20 F (-7 C)
Visibility: 1.25 miles
MSL Pressure: 994.3 mb
Altimeter: 29.37 in Hg
That 1.25 visibility sounds about like what it is here in JP.
Almost all reporting sites showed light snow with vis 1 to 1.5 miles, only
Plymouth showed moderate snow with vis 0.50 miles.
New post!
Good morning! Well we added on another 7” from last night and add that to the 9” we received Sunday night. I would say a 16” storm is a nice way to start meteorological winter! I think maybe one more inch around here before it pulls away.