Well certainly you’ll get a even perspective of reading. Slanted to your ideas of how things are going . Again, not a trump supporter but it’s always good to read all angles and then make a decision. People pick and choose
That may be, but I do not trust anything coming out of this
administration and that is a sad state of affairs. And that is as far as I will take it.
That right there is the reason we can’t unite as a country and will continue to have problems going forward
Aiden you are right that partisanship needs to stop. JPDs post is accurate and outrage is justified. An end to partisanship, however, is necessary for us to heal. But it needs to start at the top. President Bush called today for Covid partisanship to stop. Just as you did here. Trump immediately attacked him
This is why I ask trump supporters to write the president and ask him to stop. I wrote to Obama and have written to warren and sanders and others in both sides. I have never been nervous about expressing a view …which everyone who knows me should clearly see….and I always follow up anything on social media with an email or letter or phone call. Trump will not listen to anyone he believes is not his base. So please reach out to him.
Baking items (flour, sugar, yeast etc.) are now the new toilet paper. I went into a Stop & Shop for a measly 5 lb. bag of flour yesterday and the entire isle was completely bare. There was no more cake mixes, frosting, corn meal, cake pans, muffin/cupcake pans. You name it…gone! There are still plenty of “baked goods”on shelves though…for now.
Paper products such as paper plates and cups etc. that were more than plentiful a few weeks ago are now rapidly disappearing from shelves as well.
According to last night’s evening news, expect empty meat shelves for awhile.
So easy to criticize w hen something never before has happend to most people living. Arm chair quarterbacking always easy.
There are reasons, and they are a mixture of psychology and simple numbers.
I’ll pull 3 examples from what you said…
Meat: Stories flying around the net, not necessarily true, that we’re going to run out of meat. Truth is yes some of the packing plants have been adversely affected and are struggling. Will we run out? No. Public reaction to stories though: buy it all, freeze it all, throw away half of it in a few months because it’s either freezer burned or we’re sick of the same thing over and over.
Flour: This is probably just a case of a supply issue, but may be a combination of a couple factors also related to what I said above.
Paper products: It’s been long enough that people who bought a 2 year supply can breathe easier for now, finally leaving enough for those of us that were doing it correctly all along.
Am I an expert on any of this? No. These are just from common sense and observation, trying to learn the overall mentality of the population during something we have not lived through (most of us), but only read about.
I agree in part with TK but..
People who ate out one or two meals a day while working are now home and need more supplies for food there. People are definitely making more items such as bread because they feel safer knowing who has made it. My youngest went through 10 lbs of flour in a day making bread. Five pounds made two loaves. And yes people are buying ahead. Some because this could last a year. Some because price gouging is out of control. I have always replaced an item once I remove the last one from my pantry. But I don’t think many can say they have not bought things ahead now that we would not have before.
Also people are limiting contact so may order double to avoid an extra trip to grocery store. I have not purchased from a grocery store in well over a month but do use a local farm for perishables
Just some thoughts.
Empty shelves are no fun to look at. Those are my thoughts in a nutshell. 🙁
I can well imagine. I have not been inside anyplace for a couple of months. My family pretty much the same.
Since I wrote this late last night I want to transport my comment to today:
I was super busy Saturday so I didn’t get to participate in the dialog here today. Jpdave – glad you found good stuff at the boxed.com link! I got our order today and couldn’t be happier. Everything was packed as I saw in the email with the “box selfie”. I was able to get bottled Dunkin coffee for our 83 year old aunt who used to have dunkin every day (can’t risk getting an 83 year old smoker with high blood pressure iced coffee. We kept having to explain that.) A lot of variety packs of snacks so we aren’t tempted to go into convenience stores as much. A rice a roni variety pack… And there was even a code for a free flower pot when you bought annies snacks. That was a nice touch!
I like sharing any resources I find with my WHW friends.
My friends keep getting surprised when I am right about things. I said we would see paper towels back in plentiful supply first. Then toilet paper will be easier to find. Then hand sanitizer. Sure enough paper towels are easy to find. Toilet paper is slowly becoming less scarce. And a friend texted me they’ve seen travel size hand sanitizer at a few convenience stores. The warmer weather coming up combined with a flattening of the curve will lead to a complacency. I’m expecting by June to be able to stock up on lysol (which is the only thing I could run out of relatively soon. I like the aerosolized spray.) People say to me “what happens if there’s no second curve” and to that I’ve said “I’d rather buy a snowblower for winter and not have a need for it than break my back trying to shovel in a blizzard.”
And to add to this: in regards to meat shortages, flour shortages, etc – any shortage will only last for a month or two. The curve will flatten and supply chains will then be able to pick up. As vicki mentioned – more people are at home and cooking. Less people are going to restaurants because of A) A majority liked to dine in at restaurants, B) It is safer to cook at home than get takeout where you don’t know what precautions they are taking, C) With people out of work or having reduced hours it is more fiscally responsible to cook at home, D) A lot of takeout places have reduced menus and also having supply chain issues. One place near me can’t even do steak tips as an example.
So remember – in a month or two when the curve is flattened and society is going back to business almost as usual with some restrictions: prepare.
I agree with your comments. And I hope you are right about things starting to reappear. I’m not as sure about paper towels. I have said I have a Target subscription for them to be delivered regularly and for the first time Target skipped my last delivery. My kids are having trouble finding them also but just recently. We didn’t have a problem before. But possibly, things move from area to area???
See the Docs Boxed.com. They indicated that paper towels are
available (or at least when I looked yesterday).
Also, from Amazon you can get the institutional stacked paper towels like the ones in many rest rooms. Sure, they aren’t Bounty, but they are handy in a pinch. I picked up a couple of cases of them.
Additionally quill.com is a wholesale for businesses but anyone can order from them. They are generally stocked in paper products. Forgot to mention that here (and hoping mentioning it doesn’t cause it to go out of stock of stuff lmao)
Thank you. I do finally have some coming from target. But I mentioned boxed to my family.
Things almost certainly move from area to area. And some areas have a denser population than others so an easier time fulfilling the need. But there are also online retailers that seem to be having it more and more too (the afforementioned site boxed.com has paper towels – they are out of toilet paper right now but they seem to randomly have it during the week.) So if you’re willing to drive a little you will find it. Three stores I went to on a quest to see if I could procure lysol for a friend had paper towels. Two had toilet paper. Shopping during a weekday in the morning will yield better results than any time on the weekend. Even better if the weather is incliment.
I have been taking pictures (and videos) since the start of all this to document signage everywhere. Here are some pictures from my collection https://imgur.com/a/ZFX3g2m
Interesting. Thanks
I am curious about the store that doesn’t allow anyone under the age of 14. Does the store sell “adult” products?
It’s a tattoo parlor called body extremes!
Aha! Thanks Doctor. 😉
I had to do some shopping for my mom this morning…
I really only observed two negatives so I will get them out of the way first..
1) now while I agree that if you know you are not going to be near anybody you should not be required to wear a mask outside, however if you are going to a grocery store that is not going to happen, So even though unless the store has mandated it itself that it is not mandatory to wear a mask and situations you cannot distance until May 6th, It has already been a very common practice to see most people in those stores wearing face protection. While waiting in line to get into the store, middle-aged gentleman starts to walk right past the line on his way to the store, stopping not too far from where I was to ask somebody if this was the line to get into the store. Upon finding out that was the line to get into the store, and not just a group of random people delaying getting into the store so they could enjoy the weather, he became rather agitated, and stormed off to get into his vehicle, and also made a remark about everybody that was wearing masks (didn’t hear all of it). What he did not want to stick around to hear was that the line was moving rather briskly and his wait would have been under 10 minutes.
2) Yes indeed the meat section was pretty decimated, actually pretty much empty. however I do not think this will last as long as the toilet paper shortage did. Those of us that plan to grill from Memorial Day will probably find very fresh meat available just a few days before that weekend – watch.
Positives..
Other than the meat issue, The store was very well stocked, very well organized, and kindness and courteousness was abundant throughout. It’s very interesting how well we can work together when people put their attitudes away or don’t carry one to begin with. It was very nice to see and feel the atmosphere in there. Another positive, I did not spot one discarded mask or glove on the ground.
This isn’t forever, folks, and collectively we can do this. We already are, for the most part!
Let me guess. The agitated man was NOT wearing a mask? 😉
As for discarded gloves and masks, still see them on the ground from time to time. Living in the city of Boston is quite different than Woburn. Oh well.
He was not, and again I respect people who don’t want to wear one provided it’s safe. But for the sake of others and your own protection, right now it’s just smart to do it when you know you have to be near others. This won’t be forever, trust me. … Woburn has really done a great job keeping itself relatively clean. There have been a few bad apples, but there always are.
He’ll have to wear one come Wednesday. And I bet that he doesn’t even try to “social distance” himself while waiting in lines. 😉
I did not get the chance to see whether or not that was the case, since he left in a huff.
I try to stay away from the judgment of other people’s behavior until it directly impacts somebody.
I just try to concentrate on doing what I’m supposed to do to the best of my ability. 🙂
Re point number two – I agree fully. Supplies will come back for meats. But there’s a chance for this cycle to begin anew with a second curve. Personally I don’t stock up on refrigerated stuff. Too risky with no generator. Generally speaking if it’s something I’m not going to be working with the next two weeks I don’t get it. But we always have a stock of spam, beef stew, etc.!
Then the conundrum becomes…said item disappears two weeks later! 😉
I guess the “new normal” for awhile is periodic shortages of even relatively “mundane” items and lengthy restocking times of those empty shelves. I now have a bad feeling of a lot of “new normals” from now on…and not in the average consumer’s favor either.
I was about to post the first image. I was having trouble understanding why the tremendous spike in Worcester country. Then I saw the second topic on the Sutton site. As an aside, I love this town; but the second has tons of likes and it makes me wonder what the heck is in the drinking water. I’m not even sure why it is allowed to remain on the site.
Out of fairness…the poster is a troll from a neighboring town
Wow!!
DeSantis is a buffoon (IMO), but I strongly suspect the fact that COVID-19 has largely spared Florida despite the dire predictions simply comes down to climate. Southern California is likely in a similar situation. Scientific evidence is mounting that the virus is quite sensitive to heat and UV radiation, and that unless you’re (dumb enough to be) packing yourself into a tight crowd, outside is the place to be. The natural climate of Florida is not conducive for it, or many other viruses. Another reason I think people should be encouraged to go outside in a responsible manner, and why I’m hopeful numbers will drop more sharply as the weather becomes consistently warmer.
Interesting. Thanks. I so agree that outside is best. I always have…no matter the temp. Sad part is that there is absolutely no sign of responsibility when it comes to public places. Fortunately, we don’t need a park or beach, etc to be outside.
I mentioned this above in my reply to Aiden. But I didn’t have this link
I did not agree with many of his policies. But then I don’t expect to agree with any one person completely any more than I expect any individual to every agree with me. What I do know and have always said….I was behind grateful he was out President throughout September 11. And I have never doubted he loves this country.
C-19 for 5-4 is up…
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I start the day depressed after reading this. I wish this administration would do more, but NOPE.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/34-days-of-pandemic-inside-trumps-desperate-attempts-to-reopen-america/ar-BB13wlAp?ocid=spartandhp
Well certainly you’ll get a even perspective of reading. Slanted to your ideas of how things are going . Again, not a trump supporter but it’s always good to read all angles and then make a decision. People pick and choose
That may be, but I do not trust anything coming out of this
administration and that is a sad state of affairs. And that is as far as I will take it.
That right there is the reason we can’t unite as a country and will continue to have problems going forward
Aiden you are right that partisanship needs to stop. JPDs post is accurate and outrage is justified. An end to partisanship, however, is necessary for us to heal. But it needs to start at the top. President Bush called today for Covid partisanship to stop. Just as you did here. Trump immediately attacked him
This is why I ask trump supporters to write the president and ask him to stop. I wrote to Obama and have written to warren and sanders and others in both sides. I have never been nervous about expressing a view …which everyone who knows me should clearly see….and I always follow up anything on social media with an email or letter or phone call. Trump will not listen to anyone he believes is not his base. So please reach out to him.
And another
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/health/coronavirus-vaccine-never-developed-intl/index.html
Baking items (flour, sugar, yeast etc.) are now the new toilet paper. I went into a Stop & Shop for a measly 5 lb. bag of flour yesterday and the entire isle was completely bare. There was no more cake mixes, frosting, corn meal, cake pans, muffin/cupcake pans. You name it…gone! There are still plenty of “baked goods”on shelves though…for now.
Paper products such as paper plates and cups etc. that were more than plentiful a few weeks ago are now rapidly disappearing from shelves as well.
According to last night’s evening news, expect empty meat shelves for awhile.
So easy to criticize w hen something never before has happend to most people living. Arm chair quarterbacking always easy.
There are reasons, and they are a mixture of psychology and simple numbers.
I’ll pull 3 examples from what you said…
Meat: Stories flying around the net, not necessarily true, that we’re going to run out of meat. Truth is yes some of the packing plants have been adversely affected and are struggling. Will we run out? No. Public reaction to stories though: buy it all, freeze it all, throw away half of it in a few months because it’s either freezer burned or we’re sick of the same thing over and over.
Flour: This is probably just a case of a supply issue, but may be a combination of a couple factors also related to what I said above.
Paper products: It’s been long enough that people who bought a 2 year supply can breathe easier for now, finally leaving enough for those of us that were doing it correctly all along.
Am I an expert on any of this? No. These are just from common sense and observation, trying to learn the overall mentality of the population during something we have not lived through (most of us), but only read about.
I agree in part with TK but..
People who ate out one or two meals a day while working are now home and need more supplies for food there. People are definitely making more items such as bread because they feel safer knowing who has made it. My youngest went through 10 lbs of flour in a day making bread. Five pounds made two loaves. And yes people are buying ahead. Some because this could last a year. Some because price gouging is out of control. I have always replaced an item once I remove the last one from my pantry. But I don’t think many can say they have not bought things ahead now that we would not have before.
Also people are limiting contact so may order double to avoid an extra trip to grocery store. I have not purchased from a grocery store in well over a month but do use a local farm for perishables
Just some thoughts.
Empty shelves are no fun to look at. Those are my thoughts in a nutshell. 🙁
I can well imagine. I have not been inside anyplace for a couple of months. My family pretty much the same.
Since I wrote this late last night I want to transport my comment to today:
I was super busy Saturday so I didn’t get to participate in the dialog here today. Jpdave – glad you found good stuff at the boxed.com link! I got our order today and couldn’t be happier. Everything was packed as I saw in the email with the “box selfie”. I was able to get bottled Dunkin coffee for our 83 year old aunt who used to have dunkin every day (can’t risk getting an 83 year old smoker with high blood pressure iced coffee. We kept having to explain that.) A lot of variety packs of snacks so we aren’t tempted to go into convenience stores as much. A rice a roni variety pack… And there was even a code for a free flower pot when you bought annies snacks. That was a nice touch!
I like sharing any resources I find with my WHW friends.
My friends keep getting surprised when I am right about things. I said we would see paper towels back in plentiful supply first. Then toilet paper will be easier to find. Then hand sanitizer. Sure enough paper towels are easy to find. Toilet paper is slowly becoming less scarce. And a friend texted me they’ve seen travel size hand sanitizer at a few convenience stores. The warmer weather coming up combined with a flattening of the curve will lead to a complacency. I’m expecting by June to be able to stock up on lysol (which is the only thing I could run out of relatively soon. I like the aerosolized spray.) People say to me “what happens if there’s no second curve” and to that I’ve said “I’d rather buy a snowblower for winter and not have a need for it than break my back trying to shovel in a blizzard.”
And to add to this: in regards to meat shortages, flour shortages, etc – any shortage will only last for a month or two. The curve will flatten and supply chains will then be able to pick up. As vicki mentioned – more people are at home and cooking. Less people are going to restaurants because of A) A majority liked to dine in at restaurants, B) It is safer to cook at home than get takeout where you don’t know what precautions they are taking, C) With people out of work or having reduced hours it is more fiscally responsible to cook at home, D) A lot of takeout places have reduced menus and also having supply chain issues. One place near me can’t even do steak tips as an example.
So remember – in a month or two when the curve is flattened and society is going back to business almost as usual with some restrictions: prepare.
I agree with your comments. And I hope you are right about things starting to reappear. I’m not as sure about paper towels. I have said I have a Target subscription for them to be delivered regularly and for the first time Target skipped my last delivery. My kids are having trouble finding them also but just recently. We didn’t have a problem before. But possibly, things move from area to area???
See the Docs Boxed.com. They indicated that paper towels are
available (or at least when I looked yesterday).
Also, from Amazon you can get the institutional stacked paper towels like the ones in many rest rooms. Sure, they aren’t Bounty, but they are handy in a pinch. I picked up a couple of cases of them.
Additionally quill.com is a wholesale for businesses but anyone can order from them. They are generally stocked in paper products. Forgot to mention that here (and hoping mentioning it doesn’t cause it to go out of stock of stuff lmao)
Thank you. I do finally have some coming from target. But I mentioned boxed to my family.
Things almost certainly move from area to area. And some areas have a denser population than others so an easier time fulfilling the need. But there are also online retailers that seem to be having it more and more too (the afforementioned site boxed.com has paper towels – they are out of toilet paper right now but they seem to randomly have it during the week.) So if you’re willing to drive a little you will find it. Three stores I went to on a quest to see if I could procure lysol for a friend had paper towels. Two had toilet paper. Shopping during a weekday in the morning will yield better results than any time on the weekend. Even better if the weather is incliment.
I have been taking pictures (and videos) since the start of all this to document signage everywhere. Here are some pictures from my collection https://imgur.com/a/ZFX3g2m
Interesting. Thanks
I am curious about the store that doesn’t allow anyone under the age of 14. Does the store sell “adult” products?
It’s a tattoo parlor called body extremes!
Aha! Thanks Doctor. 😉
I had to do some shopping for my mom this morning…
I really only observed two negatives so I will get them out of the way first..
1) now while I agree that if you know you are not going to be near anybody you should not be required to wear a mask outside, however if you are going to a grocery store that is not going to happen, So even though unless the store has mandated it itself that it is not mandatory to wear a mask and situations you cannot distance until May 6th, It has already been a very common practice to see most people in those stores wearing face protection. While waiting in line to get into the store, middle-aged gentleman starts to walk right past the line on his way to the store, stopping not too far from where I was to ask somebody if this was the line to get into the store. Upon finding out that was the line to get into the store, and not just a group of random people delaying getting into the store so they could enjoy the weather, he became rather agitated, and stormed off to get into his vehicle, and also made a remark about everybody that was wearing masks (didn’t hear all of it). What he did not want to stick around to hear was that the line was moving rather briskly and his wait would have been under 10 minutes.
2) Yes indeed the meat section was pretty decimated, actually pretty much empty. however I do not think this will last as long as the toilet paper shortage did. Those of us that plan to grill from Memorial Day will probably find very fresh meat available just a few days before that weekend – watch.
Positives..
Other than the meat issue, The store was very well stocked, very well organized, and kindness and courteousness was abundant throughout. It’s very interesting how well we can work together when people put their attitudes away or don’t carry one to begin with. It was very nice to see and feel the atmosphere in there. Another positive, I did not spot one discarded mask or glove on the ground.
This isn’t forever, folks, and collectively we can do this. We already are, for the most part!
Let me guess. The agitated man was NOT wearing a mask? 😉
As for discarded gloves and masks, still see them on the ground from time to time. Living in the city of Boston is quite different than Woburn. Oh well.
He was not, and again I respect people who don’t want to wear one provided it’s safe. But for the sake of others and your own protection, right now it’s just smart to do it when you know you have to be near others. This won’t be forever, trust me. … Woburn has really done a great job keeping itself relatively clean. There have been a few bad apples, but there always are.
He’ll have to wear one come Wednesday. And I bet that he doesn’t even try to “social distance” himself while waiting in lines. 😉
I did not get the chance to see whether or not that was the case, since he left in a huff.
I try to stay away from the judgment of other people’s behavior until it directly impacts somebody.
I just try to concentrate on doing what I’m supposed to do to the best of my ability. 🙂
Re point number two – I agree fully. Supplies will come back for meats. But there’s a chance for this cycle to begin anew with a second curve. Personally I don’t stock up on refrigerated stuff. Too risky with no generator. Generally speaking if it’s something I’m not going to be working with the next two weeks I don’t get it. But we always have a stock of spam, beef stew, etc.!
Then the conundrum becomes…said item disappears two weeks later! 😉
I guess the “new normal” for awhile is periodic shortages of even relatively “mundane” items and lengthy restocking times of those empty shelves. I now have a bad feeling of a lot of “new normals” from now on…and not in the average consumer’s favor either.
I was about to post the first image. I was having trouble understanding why the tremendous spike in Worcester country. Then I saw the second topic on the Sutton site. As an aside, I love this town; but the second has tons of likes and it makes me wonder what the heck is in the drinking water. I’m not even sure why it is allowed to remain on the site.
https://imgur.com/a/7KX1tMB
Out of fairness…the poster is a troll from a neighboring town
Wow!!
DeSantis is a buffoon (IMO), but I strongly suspect the fact that COVID-19 has largely spared Florida despite the dire predictions simply comes down to climate. Southern California is likely in a similar situation. Scientific evidence is mounting that the virus is quite sensitive to heat and UV radiation, and that unless you’re (dumb enough to be) packing yourself into a tight crowd, outside is the place to be. The natural climate of Florida is not conducive for it, or many other viruses. Another reason I think people should be encouraged to go outside in a responsible manner, and why I’m hopeful numbers will drop more sharply as the weather becomes consistently warmer.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/politics/florida-reopening-desantis/index.html
Interesting. Thanks. I so agree that outside is best. I always have…no matter the temp. Sad part is that there is absolutely no sign of responsibility when it comes to public places. Fortunately, we don’t need a park or beach, etc to be outside.
Message from george bush https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E6lxKOfn8_E&feature=youtu.be
I mentioned this above in my reply to Aiden. But I didn’t have this link
I did not agree with many of his policies. But then I don’t expect to agree with any one person completely any more than I expect any individual to every agree with me. What I do know and have always said….I was behind grateful he was out President throughout September 11. And I have never doubted he loves this country.
C-19 for 5-4 is up…